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Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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The new CEO, Laura Chambers, is an MBA and a former McKinsey consultant ([1]). I would not hold my breath about the future of Firefox. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamberslaura/details/experience...

Laura Chambers is only the interim CEO. In the original announcement post, it was stated that she would stay for the "remainder of this year", and Chambers later said that she would move to Australia in 2024 [1].

[1] https://fortune.com/2024/02/08/mozilla-firefox-ceo-laura-cha...

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> its leadership argued that diversifying its product portfolio beyond Firefox was necessary to ensure Mozilla’s survival in the long run This always bugged me. Are they expecting Firefox to die? If that happened, there would be little reason for Mozilla to exist. The project lives and dies with the browser. Having a "plan B" is complete nonsense and an unnecessary distraction. I'm glad they're shifting focus back on…

The monkey's paw outcome is they re-focus on the browser, but follow Opera and Edge in pivoting to Yet Another Chromium Reskin, massively cutting their development costs while technically remaining in the browser market. Hopefully it doesn't come to that but I'm not ruling it out.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's already AI in there, see the current Translation feature.

Perfect example of why this is a bad idea. There is no immediately obvious way to turn off this obnoxious feature, which insists on hogging part of my precious screen real estate. By default, it only has a poorly worded way to disable it for a single language, but no way to simply turn it off forever. (Yes, you can disable it in about:config). If I want something translated, I'll ask for it. Feel free to add a menu i…

On the flip side if I navigate to a page I may not be able to read (due to the language being different to my browser settings), offering to translate it seems like a good and helpful thing. Certainly better than a button I don’t know about buried in a menu somewhere I won’t find.

And if you personally don’t like it, you can disable the feature in the settings. What’s wrong with that?

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> Mozilla will focus on bringing “trustworthy AI into Firefox.” I hope they will give us ability to turn it off. Or at least LibreWolf will turn it off / remove it. I’d rather they add optional small subscription fee to support themselves if they have to than add AI or some other questionable functionalities.

There's already AI in there, see the current Translation feature.

Which, I might add, is entirely local.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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An org like Mozilla making a real effort to bring open, privacy-focused AI to Firefox is interesting for sure. But I hope they don't get too distracted by the AI hype train. Interesting that they are still as focused as ever on Pocket.

Does Pocket give them the ability to create useful data for use in their AI efforts?

It certainly gives them the ability to collect a lot of data, which is why I disable it on every install.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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While I always marveled at how Hubs survived the 2020 layoffs (which included the people working on WebVR/WebXR at the time), seeing it shutting down is a shame. We used it to run monthly meetups for the WebXR Discord for just about the last 3 years. Very curious what's going to happen to it now, whether it gets handed off to another entity (i.e. Firefox Reality to Igalia) or left to the community somehow.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> its leadership argued that diversifying its product portfolio beyond Firefox was necessary to ensure Mozilla’s survival in the long run This always bugged me. Are they expecting Firefox to die? If that happened, there would be little reason for Mozilla to exist. The project lives and dies with the browser. Having a "plan B" is complete nonsense and an unnecessary distraction. I'm glad they're shifting focus back on…

I hope the idea is for the profits from other products to fund Firefox but so far every attempt has failed.

The other products are very unprofitable. FF profits actually fund everything else. Search deals on FF are over 80% of revenue yet less than half the company works on FF.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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post #41
post #39

The new CEO, Laura Chambers, is an MBA and a former McKinsey consultant ([1]). I would not hold my breath about the future of Firefox. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamberslaura/details/experience...

Laura Chambers is only the interim CEO. In the original announcement post, it was stated that she would stay for the "remainder of this year", and Chambers later said that she would move to Australia in 2024 [1]. [1] https://fortune.com/2024/02/08/mozilla-firefox-ceo-laura-cha...

Obviously she will. Jesus, that's about 2/3rds of the problems of Firefox right there.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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Backing off of VPN, Relay and Monitor sounds like bad news. They are the Mozilla's only source of income if the Google search deal goes away. Mozilla's financial statements never detailed how much money they were spending on their different segments, so perhaps those projects weren't generating profit, and thus weren't worth keeping even though they brought in revenue. I can certainly see how it would be hard to comp…

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