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End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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What should I replace it with? Any recommendations for a functionally equivalent cross-device 2FA app?

Password Store works fine for me: https://www.passwordstore.org/ https://github.com/tadfisher/pass-otp Others have also said Bitwarden isn't too bad: https://bitwarden.com/

> https://github.com/tadfisher/pass-otp

Seconded. The jerk maintainer needs to cut a release though. And maybe port it to something other than bash.

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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Generally the threat model that TOTP protects against is not someone breaking into your device. The threat model that it protects against is someone compromising your other credentials. So, although not recommended, you could post your login credentials on twitter and still nobody would be able to get into your account. An attacker hacking into your laptop/desktop/phone with access to install keyloggers and hijack co…

>Generally the threat model that TOTP protects against is not someone breaking into your device. And yet, in some realistic scenarios TOTP does protect me against that, if the second factor is on a different device, kind of like a poor man's yubikey.

Not if I'm on your device and hijacking your already-authenticated connection. I just need to be careful enough to do it in the background in such a way that you don't notice.

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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How do folks use two factor auth for 1password logins? It feels wrong to me to use 1password as the second factor for 1password itself. My last remaining authy second factors are for primary email and 1password. All other second factors are in 1password.

Two ways: - a Yubikey - a sparingly used email account with no 2FA, just a very long password 2FA through the sort-of-secret email account lets me get back into Bitwarden (and thus everything else) even if my house burns down and I lose access to all of my yubikeys. And auth on a device that doesn't easily support yubikeys, like older iPhones. 2FA is very useful, but highly overrated. If you have a sufficiently long…

Passwords don't protect against spoofed login pages.

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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I use Authy. I've read a few comments about how migrating away is difficult. What do you use instead? I also use bitwarden, but not sure how I feel about passwords and totp being in the same app.

> I also use bitwarden, but not sure how I feel about passwords and totp being in the same app. I guess this depends on your threat model. In what cases would your password vault be compromised, but your TOTP vault still be secure? If someone gets access to your unlocked PC/phone, don't they then have access to both? Do you store your TOTP vault password in your password vault (obvious)? If someone gets into your pas…

> I guess this depends on your threat model. In what cases would your password vault be compromised, but your TOTP vault still be secure?

Key logger?

I unlock my password vault frequently. I only unlock my TOTP vault to:

1. Add a new secret 2. Recover access to an account if my authenticator has died.

Since I unlock my TOTP vault so infrequently, the number of hashing rounds/etc are tuned to be _much_ slower and require _much_ more memory. It uses an entirely separate set of credentials from my main vault. And you're unlikely to snag the password unless you're watching me for a long time or get very lucky.

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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How do folks use two factor auth for 1password logins? It feels wrong to me to use 1password as the second factor for 1password itself. My last remaining authy second factors are for primary email and 1password. All other second factors are in 1password.

Two ways: - a Yubikey - a sparingly used email account with no 2FA, just a very long password 2FA through the sort-of-secret email account lets me get back into Bitwarden (and thus everything else) even if my house burns down and I lose access to all of my yubikeys. And auth on a device that doesn't easily support yubikeys, like older iPhones. 2FA is very useful, but highly overrated. If you have a sufficiently long…

> 2FA is very useful, but highly overrated.

What a bizarre statement. It protects you from any password leak.

If you have 2FA, even if you get keylogged or phished or breached or shoulder peeked, your intruder still does not gain access.

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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But it also only has mobile apps. Authy is only killing the desktop app, not the mobile ones - at least not yet. What does 2FAS give, genuinely curious in case I'm missing something..

There's a browser extension: https://2fas.com/browser-extension/ .

it still requires you to reach your phone

Re: End of Life for Twilio Authy Desktop App

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They intentionally make it really hard to migrate your data off their app under the premise of "security". Now, they are EOL'ing desktop apps, which are extremely convenient to use, despite the terrible UX. https://support.authy.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260805179070-Ex... The process for exporting is doable, but requires fairly deep technical knowledge and it isn't 100% clean. In order to do so, you need that desktop a…

I had some good luck with https://github.com/token2/authy-migration

In case anyone is looking for a desktop app to replace Authy, the authy-migration tool from token2 supports exporting TOTP seeds in WinAuth compatible format (use .wa.txt for export file name). Then in WinAuth (https://winauth.github.io/winauth/index.html) , just import that file.
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