Aren't most recruiters paid by commission? It's in their best interest to encourage short stints (long enough for the commission) so they can make money more often. Ten people staying a year each are worth more to them than one person staying 10 years.
Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
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Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#22I'd be happy to write a carefully crafted, specifically tailored cover letter when recruiters are willing to respond with a detailed, individualized rejection letter.
The thing is, it’s not symmetric. They have far more to lose by leaking specifics than you do. The most efficient cover letter conveys just how little initiation you will need to conform to company values . You should edit this down, but by no means do all the typing. The median rejection letter gets the same treatment.
No, it's not symmetric, but not at all in the way you describe.
Worst case, from the employer's side, is they might have to pay the successful candidate *gasp* a few tens of thousands more per year (out of a budget, in a huge percentage of cases, in the two-to-three-digit millions or higher).
Worst case, from the employee's side, is that they might not get any job. For months. During which they still have to pay for food, rent/mortgage, clothing, utilities, etc, possibly for several people.
And these days, the median rejection letter is none. Most employers just ghost prospective employees who didn't make the cut.
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#23I do understand this perspective. It's just too bad that in our current system, our existence depends on getting and keeping a job. Of course if I ran a company I would only want the best employees and not really feel responsible for random people's lives/them not making ends meet. On the other hand, a lot of prospective employees are just trying to exist. And some people don't "dream" of work. Others dreams are just…
This exactly. Everyone boasts about hiring the top 1% or whatever. What about everyone else.
The entire system is broken. The reason we tolerate capitalism is that it fosters competition and innovation, which produces material plenty.
But then it takes most of the benefits for itself, destroys the environment, and divides society into owners and wage-slaves.
Capitalism is not that far from, and in a sense a continuation of, feudalism. Many dynasties from feudal times are still wealthy today, now owning companies instead of just lands.
The question should be, with 8 billion of us, how should we live, together? What system do we need to maximize humanity, not just 'profit'?
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#24Interesting. Really serves as motivation to put 100% of my effort into building my own product. It's a fair article and probably is good advice if you're looking to get hired. Just after 20 years in the corporate workforce I'm pretty tired of this shite. Fkn hoops to jump through.
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is, it’s not symmetric. They have far more to lose by leaking specifics than you do. The most efficient cover letter conveys just how little initiation you will need to conform to company values . You should edit this down, but by no means do all the typing. The median rejection letter gets the same treatment.
No, it's not symmetric, but not at all in the way you describe. Worst case, from the employer's side, is they might have to pay the successful candidate *gasp* a few tens of thousands more per year (out of a budget, in a huge percentage of cases, in the two-to-three-digit millions or higher). Worst case, from the employee's side, is that they might not get any job. For months . During which they still have to pay for…
The worst case on the side of hiring is facing a lawsuit because you treated candidates unevenly. And the detail you go into about a candidate are too personal for the hiring process.
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd strongly recommend said applicant takes more time for the jobs they are most enthusiastic for, and includes the cover letter and tidied-up CV.
But based on the attitude of the post, you see that people are asking why . Maybe it’s culturally different across sectors, etc. But under what conditions do you expect it to matter?
It matters if I'm reviewing the applications for a job, and has done in all the software jobs where I've been involved in recruitment. I expect the same when I'm applying for a job, so I always include a cover letter.
I feel someone who doesn't make the effort to write a cover letter is more likely to waste our time — cancelling an interview, or not accepting an offer. It's also the applicant's chance to explain why they are a good candidate for this job, and if there's anything odd on their CV.
The CV shows you can do something, the cover letter shows you want to.
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's not symmetric, but not at all in the way you describe. Worst case, from the employer's side, is they might have to pay the successful candidate *gasp* a few tens of thousands more per year (out of a budget, in a huge percentage of cases, in the two-to-three-digit millions or higher). Worst case, from the employee's side, is that they might not get any job. For months . During which they still have to pay for…
The worst case on the side of hiring is facing a lawsuit because you treated candidates unevenly. And the detail you go into about a candidate are too personal for the hiring process.
So you might have to pay some legal fees, and possibly a fine.
That's still not symmetrical in the common case. It's incredibly unlikely that such a thing would lead to a business going under, while it's all too likely for a job-seeker to have to spend months looking for a job, with no income, very little savings (because a huge percentage of Americans simply don't make enough money to save any even if they have jobs), and a horribly dysfunctional social safety net.
Re: Why I threw away your resume (from the crankiest recruiter)
#28Is the cover letter thing actually true? I was under the impression that most companies in tech don't read them.
It's not. But an article explaining the real reasons why your resume was immediately thrown out (you have none of the required qualifications; you live in Australia and the job is only open to US applicants; you applied for the same position a month ago and were rejected then) would be too boring, I guess.