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Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by sumuyuda »

pgsandstrom wrote: post #2

I have a somewhat unrealistic dream that someday dating apps will be viewed the same way as roads: Essential infrastructure that needs to be handled by the public. A government developed dating app whose only goal is to help people find healthy relationships. All my american friends balk at this. But as a swede, I dont think it is completely impossible. The completely impossible dream would be that we as a society st…

There are other options to private capitalism than the government. Could be a non-profit/NGO/worker owned collective. Maybe these types on organizations could provide a better product/experience, as they aren’t orientated around maximizing the profit.

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by blendo »

For a straight male, you’ll see a surprisingly large number of fake profiles. Anecdotally, women seem to report this too. (Reddit has MANY such posts!) So identity verification is a real problem.

As an iPhone user, I’d seriously consider using a dating app that ONLY allowed you to “Sign in with Apple”, in the belief that it’s the “best” way to ensure a real human is behind the sign-in, more-so than email/pwd, or even Facebook or Google sign-ins.

Except maybe ID.me as used by the IRS and the VA?

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by throwstds »

lbotos wrote: post #10
lionheart997 wrote: post #4

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I mean, you know you are gonna get downvoted here which is why you clearly chose a throwaway. Your main thrust that dating does require courage is true, but that courage could be as straight forward as asking someone you met on an online dating app: I'm scared of getting herpes, would you mind taking a test before we had sex/kissed? I've done this many times. No herpes yet. Some people have said no. Their loss . So -…

I took prep once. I'm so scared of STDs and HIV. Yes I am even gonna ask my partner for health report.

Hope VR comes to rescue us soon. LoL

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

blendo wrote: post #62

For a straight male, you’ll see a surprisingly large number of fake profiles. Anecdotally, women seem to report this too. (Reddit has MANY such posts!) So identity verification is a real problem. As an iPhone user, I’d seriously consider using a dating app that ONLY allowed you to “Sign in with Apple”, in the belief that it’s the “best” way to ensure a real human is behind the sign-in, more-so than email/pwd, or even…

>As an iPhone user, I’d seriously consider using a dating app that ONLY allowed you to “Sign in with Apple”,

This way you can also avoid the poor Android users and clear them off the gene pool. /s

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by Yizahi »

maxsilver wrote: post #7
pgsandstrom wrote: post #2

I have a somewhat unrealistic dream that someday dating apps will be viewed the same way as roads: Essential infrastructure that needs to be handled by the public. A government developed dating app whose only goal is to help people find healthy relationships. All my american friends balk at this. But as a swede, I dont think it is completely impossible. The completely impossible dream would be that we as a society st…

> All my american friends balk at this. But as a swede, I dont think it is completely impossible. (as an American, balking at this): The American government is too irresponsible and corrupt to ever handle something like this -- it would get abused so quickly, and thus, no regular person would trust it. Having a single dating app/profile as a free public service is a good idea in theory , but the pre-requisite of havi…

Would a single government (for example USA) operating such service be better on average than a single megacorp (for example Match.com)? I think corporate overreach in the democracy is way bigger than government overreach. At least in such simple and inconsequential case.

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by dkekenflxlf »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #60
garciasn wrote: post #32

Originally responding to a flagged comment that stated you were weak for not talking to people in person: You’re not wrong, but the in-person dating pool is small and the stakes are high. I am very recently divorced, dating single for the first time in nearly 25 years after finding my wife stole $300K from the family and had been carrying on an affair for 18 months while I thought our finances and love were at an all…

>They do work and people are using them. People use them out of desperation/necessity, not because they work at actually helping you find a partner or whatever it is you're looking. They work at keeping you hooked on the platform, hoping in vain you'll eventually find someone if you stick there long enough. To quote someone else: There's this old man playing a crooked game every day and loosing his money so a youngst…

>> The crooked game is the dating apps. For many people, it's the only option of dating and meeting new people outside their social circles, which is why they're used even if most people hate them, not because they're good. this!!

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by leach »

Dating apps by and far are quite useless. If you ever want to know how insidious they are, just download one, finish your profile, and swipe for 10 minutes a week.

Since you are not an "active user" they will give you the most attractive people to swipe on. Every couple of days they will give you a "limited time" discount on gold or platinum or whatever. The push notifications are my favorite part, "you could be missing out on the love of your life!!!".

Not to mention the interactions with the UI are littered with casino like visuals. The whole purpose of the app is to get you addicted and spending time and money on it.

It's much easier to naturally meet people in real life through work/school. If you can't there, go hang out at coffee shops or bookstores or something and just hang. Strike up conversation with people, just live. You'll get rejected and some people will be rude but it's all real. You could also always pick up hobbies and meet people there. Just be social, don't spend time and money on these machines of misery.

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by rwoerz »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #64
blendo wrote: post #62

For a straight male, you’ll see a surprisingly large number of fake profiles. Anecdotally, women seem to report this too. (Reddit has MANY such posts!) So identity verification is a real problem. As an iPhone user, I’d seriously consider using a dating app that ONLY allowed you to “Sign in with Apple”, in the belief that it’s the “best” way to ensure a real human is behind the sign-in, more-so than email/pwd, or even…

>As an iPhone user, I’d seriously consider using a dating app that ONLY allowed you to “Sign in with Apple”, This way you can also avoid the poor Android users and clear them off the gene pool. /s

No, with other dating apps around you just spawn a speciation.

Re: The dating app paradox

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Post by mattmaroon »

alistairSH wrote: post #59
mattmaroon wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s just marketing by politicians trying to get elected. “Our government sucks, pick me and I’ll fix it” has been every politicians message since Reagan. It isn’t real. For an organization that size, it functions incredibly well in most respects. Nobody would claim it to be perfect (and you’re probably right that nobody would trust it even if it were, because so many have accepted that marketing) but it could hand…

It maybe shouldn’t. But I don’t think corruption is or in this case would be a real issue. I'd be more concerned about aligned incentives. A (modern, democratic) government exists to help maximize the social welfare of the governed. Is there enough societal gain to be had by entrusting mate-matching to the government? And are those gains in sync with the goals of the individuals? Fictional example: In a politically p…

Well, a lot of people are concerned about the low birth rate, and a good online dating app might be helpful. And a not-for-profit model might actually be the best way to accomplish that.

I am neither sure that the common claim of why online dating is broken is true, nor that a government-run app is a good idea. Im just sure the “our government is incompetent and corrupt” argument is drastically oversubscribed to.

You know what government is 100 times as corrupt and incompetent as ours? Cuba. And they make some of the finest cigars and rum in the world. Surely ours could come up with something better than Tinder.

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