Tesla worker killed in fiery crash may be first 'Full Self-Driving' fatality

Your point is that these systems need to be save even in the face of incapable drivers and that, despite the misleading marketing, they are not that ( yet ).

The other point though is that people already have access to cars and, according to the evidence, cars with these features are LESS dangerous.

Encouraging over-reliance is a problem but not as big a problem as having to rely on the human 100% of the time. This statement is just a fact given the statistics.

Given the above, while it is too extreme to say that operation by an impaired driver is “moot”, it is fair to suggest that the most significant source of risk is the impaired driver themselves and their decision to operate a vehicle of any kind. The biggest offer to this risk are the additional safety features of the vehicle. The degree of over-confidence caused by the vehicle type is a distraction.

I rode in a Model Y last year and just could not believe the mistakes it was making. Disappearing and reappearing cars; the semi in front of us was apparently straddling the lane line for a few miles; somehow an early-2000s Dodge Ram was classified as a small sedan – the list goes on, and this was only a ~10-minute ride. I would be absolutely mortified if a product of mine ended up in front of a customer in that state.

It requires a lot of force to override it. And remember, it requires you to keep the hands on the wheel. But you are not expecting to have to fight it, so there are some delays there. Then you're fighting a system that you don't know how much force it takes to override it. You don't want to apply too much force because you might be barreling down the freeway at 80mph. At those speeds you just nudge the steering wheel. But that's not the case when you need to override the car.

And it happens more then you expect. Every time the car mis-calculates the actual lines on the road it'll do it. Changes in paint where the old one is still there for example. Or just faded paint and all of the sudden it detects a diagonally going split between 2 slabs of concrete as the lane separator.

Or you're doing 50mph, and you're passing a couple of cyclists. If you don't turn on your turn signal and you weave to the left to pass them the car will literally steer back into the direction of the cyclists. Scary.

Couple of days ago I passed a Tesla going 75mph down the highway and the driver was rummaging around in the back seat. And I don't mean just the lean over and reach for something on the seat, no he was unbuckled and halfway in the back row of the car looking for something.

It was only a few moments, and I am sure that some system or other in the Tesla eventually noticed and warned the driver to take over, but at those speeds, it only takes a few seconds of inattention to end up in disaster. And personally, I've never, ever seen drivers of cars without some sort of self-driving capability do that.