Sparkle: A software update framework for macOS
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Re: Sparkle: A software update framework for macOS
#2The one and only. Everything else is garbage in comparison.
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#3Maybe I‘m weird, but for some reason seeing a Sparkle „Update available“ modal popping up fils me with joy (The software I‘m using is getting better) and I enjoy reading the changelog. If there’s some weird custom updater in another software it always fills me with dread because I have to navigate a different UI, and probably have to restart it immediately.
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#4This looks great. What would be the equivalent of this on Windows? It feels like everyone just invents their own.
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#5Are you telling me macOS doesn't have a package manager already?
Re: Sparkle: A software update framework for macOS
#6The one and only. Everything else is garbage in comparison.
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#7Are you telling me macOS doesn't have a package manager already?
In terms of apps no, it doesn't or basically it is the Mac App Store. You basically publish your app with all the dependencies and target a specific OS version which guarantees certain baseline frameworks. Apart from that, any update means publishing a new version to the App Store (if you are there). If you are self hosting the app, you need something like Sparkle to trigger app updates.
In terms of proper package management a la yum or apt, there is homebrew of course.
Re: Sparkle: A software update framework for macOS
#8Are you telling me macOS doesn't have a package manager already?
In terms of apps no, it doesn't or basically it is the Mac App Store. You basically publish your app with all the dependencies and target a specific OS version which guarantees certain baseline frameworks. Apart from that, any update means publishing a new version to the App Store (if you are there). If you are self hosting the app, you need something like Sparkle to trigger app updates. In terms of proper package ma…
OK so basically the point is to avoid Mac App Store fees and independence to third party project like homebrew.
Doesn't that leads to the situation on windows where every single app is phoning home at startup?
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
In terms of apps no, it doesn't or basically it is the Mac App Store. You basically publish your app with all the dependencies and target a specific OS version which guarantees certain baseline frameworks. Apart from that, any update means publishing a new version to the App Store (if you are there). If you are self hosting the app, you need something like Sparkle to trigger app updates. In terms of proper package ma…
OK so basically the point is to avoid Mac App Store fees and independence to third party project like homebrew. Doesn't that leads to the situation on windows where every single app is phoning home at startup?
Well the original point is that sparkle predates MAS by more than a decade, and the MAS limitations are a bigger issue than the fees.
> Doesn't that leads to the situation on windows where every single app is phoning home at startup?
Sparkle has a very clear and regular behaviour, its predictability and widespread use made it easy to manage.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK so basically the point is to avoid Mac App Store fees and independence to third party project like homebrew. Doesn't that leads to the situation on windows where every single app is phoning home at startup?
Well the original point is that sparkle predates MAS by more than a decade, and the MAS limitations are a bigger issue than the fees. > Doesn't that leads to the situation on windows where every single app is phoning home at startup? Sparkle has a very clear and regular behaviour, its predictability and widespread use made it easy to manage.
As a more technical user who is aware of Sparkle, I recognise the Sparkle updater and I appreciate it. In fact, I miss this on Windows, where each app updates differently, and most will just throw you annoyingly to the install wizard all over again.