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Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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All companies by simply reaching a certain scale and size -- are just by default becoming a monopoly. Since Apple is the biggest company in the world it's inescapable they will face these accusations even if they fairly earned their way in to this position the right thing is to still stop them because a monopoly is always a bad thing for consumers.

How does that excuse any of their anticompetitive CHOICES they continue to make? I don't understand how your comment affords Apple anything.

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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post #10

All companies by simply reaching a certain scale and size -- are just by default becoming a monopoly. Since Apple is the biggest company in the world it's inescapable they will face these accusations even if they fairly earned their way in to this position the right thing is to still stop them because a monopoly is always a bad thing for consumers.

> All companies by simply reaching a certain scale and size -- are just by default becoming a monopoly.

This statement can be reworded as "the companies that are big enough to be monopolies are monopolies".

Not all companies are monopolies just by their size. Microsoft is the biggest company in the world (not Apple), and it's not a monopoly in everything it sells. It may be a monopoly in some areas, because of its tactics, but the same goes for Apple: if they open up the app store, like the EU wants them to, they'll no longer be a monopoly, even though they'll be exactly the same size.

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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They remove pwas in latest ios beta(only in the EU) they are evil

Wait, is this confirmed that it's removed only in the EU? I've seen "reports" on Twitter (never gonna call it X) but nothing official.

It certainly seems that way:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/02/09/something-is-happ...

Without clear communication from Apple, people will assume that the change is a strategic move by Apple to not cede ground being lost due to the Digital Markets Act.

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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They remove pwas in latest ios beta(only in the EU) they are evil

I'm as disappointed in the new rules as anyone, but I'm going to call this one as most likely just a missing implementation rather than malicious.

The new Browser Engine Kit that allows alternative browsers to be installed is really a very deep integration. It's not just swapping out the browser and engine that users open as an app, it's swapping out all system integrations – webviews embedded in apps (in certain types of use), and importantly, PWAs pinned to the home screen. The APIs have a fairly sizeable surface area, and PWAs themselves have many features that require system support to implement.

My assumption would be that full PWA support will return, but that it was a significant amount of extra work that Apple decided to skip for the first implementation. I'm not sure if that was the right call, but they were under quite a deadline with the DMA coming in.

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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They remove pwas in latest ios beta(only in the EU) they are evil

I hadn't heard about this, but it is indeed concerning. After my latest round of trying to publish apps on the iOS App Store, I concluded that PWAs were the best bet to getting a nice, polished user-experience without the soul-crushing process that is app store publishing.

I suppose a small bit of light (for me, not the community at-large) is that all of my targeted market is in the US. But I also acknowledge is they get away with that in the EU, the US will be next. Le sigh. This is why the Web is the best platform.

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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Nobody's complaining about not having the apple distribution. They're complaining about the scareware popups, designed to hurt businesses that don't pay Apple protection money.

You really think people won't blame Apple when Little Timmy spends $10k on diamonds on a mobile game they got from an alternate store and Apple won't refund it because, you know, not their store?

Re: Developers revolt over Apple's new app store rules

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Of course he can? "Trusted" doesn't have to mean "trusted by Apple", I want it to mean "trusted by me".

The thing that can't be had here is both Apple being the sole keymaster of the device and the user being the sole keymaster of the device.

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