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Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Should we also hide the names of the universities we went to and the names of former employers we worked at?

Confused, what are you implying?

There's bias towards certain big name institutions. Perhaps we should prevent discrimination on this basis by omitting those references.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Junior engineer. Hundreds of applications across 3 months. Nothing but silence and automated rejections. It's got me feeling so down that I'm just going to leave the private sector for military. Get some training, have some job security, benefits, and hopefully wait out the horrible market.

Are you only looking regionally or across your whole country? (Presumably the US)

US, yes, and I'm in a particularly bad region for tech, so I'm searching across multiple states and also across the country. I'm currently employed as a remote worker and it's killing me. It gives me very few opportunities to network. I did high school online and graduated college online due to the pandemic, so my network is already super suffering as it is.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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I don't question that is takes hard work, even for more senior devs like the author, but 30 apps leading to 3 offers is a dream. Most early-career people are probably at >100 app with maybe a few interviews and hopefully one offer.

> Most early-career people are probably at >100 app with maybe a few interviews and hopefully one offer.

This has not been my experience at all. I've been at 6 positions in my time and applied to maybe 15

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Recruiter here on Switzerland's market. All I can say is: Don't apply for jobs online. We get spammend like there is no tomorrow. Instead, find the hiring manager on Linkedin and their email on hunter.io and directly reach out.

There are a couple of reasons I think online job applications are so spammy: 1. Sometimes the companies don't adhere to the requirements they posted. For example the job post might list skills A, B, and C with a minimum of 3+ years, but some of my friends recommended that I apply anyway. I don't track such cases but I think I got a couple of responses when I did that. 2. Some companies leave job posts up after they've been filled, or ghost candidates during the interview process, so candidates tend to spam to ensure that even if a small fraction replied, they'd get at least one offer.

I'd assume that contacting hiring managers directly might lead to better chances, but aren't 200 other people doing the same?

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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I believe the current hiring woes in the US are more nefarious than just being picky. First, I believe US companies are figuring out how to hire foreign teams at lower cost. I get multiple emails per week from companies offering us their team at low rates. South America and India are common places. I personally witnessed this at my last company where they drastically cut US/North America staff in favor of Indian team…

I've been saying for years that NA software devs should fight to RTO. If you can do do your job remotely, so can people across the world who will do it for 5x less.

RTO doesn't change anything about that. It'll still be cheaper to hire in low cost areas.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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A business only makes sense if they're aiming to be better than others at a specific angle. They need to get the very best for their particular thing that makes them different. Other roles obviously don't matter as much.

Indeed. For tech companies and a few non-tech companies but with a strong tech environment (think HFT), IT is where you gain an edge on your competitors. Everywhere else, you win customers because of better prices, negotiating nice deals with suppliers, great salespeople and a good SEO presence, and so on, not because you use the latest Kubernetes version that finally introduces support for that sweet annotation you…

This being HackerNews, I would have expected most people here work for a company that is aiming to disrupt the status quo through technology.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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I am pretty tolerant when it comes to not knowing things or time for learning new skills. With this fast changing industry i can not help it but tolerating. But when i catch someone lying at least twice about something technical, i do my part to make sure the person is not hired or next to leave. There is no trust.

An engineer who can’t admit they don’t know something when it matters is actively harmful to the work of engineering.

> An engineer who can’t admit they don’t know something when it matters is...

a bad engineer.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Being a software developer today feels like constantly dealing with a bunch of bullcrap. Honestly, how are you folks doing? Are you alright? Frankly, I feel so exhausted. Job searching is such a soul-crushing activity. Sending applications is time-consuming, needlessly cumbersome, utterly Sisyphean, and essentially feels like a complete waste of your life. You don't learn anything useful, you're not building anything practical, it doesn't improve any aspect of your life, and there seems to be no good, proven way of automating it.

I never understood why being a developer has to be so wearisome. Why is it expected that any software dev has to have encyclopedic knowledge of Java, Javascript, Python, Go, different dialects of SQL, along with scripting stuff like bash and awk; ansible, chef and terraform; has to know 50 different AWS services; tons of different database types and their implementations; need to know common vulnerability types and understand how DNS, TCP-IP, http, websockets, and other protocols work; must know how to invert a binary tree in zero-gravity; their GitHub activity graph should look like an aerial view of the Amazon forest; they must maintain a blog; speak at conferences, and once in a while write a dissertation paper. And all that still is not enough because they have to excel at interviews. At several different types of them - algorithms and data structures, language-specific, framework-specific, pair programming interview, design systems interview, product interview, company and industry-specific, take-home project interview, tech talk, and personality interview.

Why is it that even when it feels like "you've made it," and you finally have a job at some big company, you still can't feel safe? Why do you constantly have to be in "finding a job mode" instead of building stuff and fixing problems? Sigh...

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Only six of thirty companies didn't reply... Maybe that's a European thing, but in the USA I find the vast majority of companies never reply.

Right. I stopped tracking my applications. I only put a note when I get a rejection or invitation for the next step. Most applications get sent into a void. You may get an automated "we got your application, thank you...", and still won't ever hear from them again.
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