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Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by 6510 »

vdaea wrote: post #60
6510 wrote: post #38

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Never change the article path without a redirect. If I honor you with a well deserved link to your article in a section that requires the context, insights and perspective you provide it should not be made into a mistake to be avoided next time. I should not have to do the work for you - because I wont.

That's why when I write something that I think will be read for years to come I use archive links to link to other pages.

I keep thinking I should archive everything but only link to it if the target goes missing. Could check every time it is clicked or scan for dead links.

For a while I put magnet links under youtube videos. Got a mail from someone looking for a video for a long time. He found many pages with the deleted video on them, including mine.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by acdha »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #67
pockybum522 wrote: post #27

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07-01-2013, never forget.

> never forget Honestly I'm pretty much over this now and ready to move on with my life :p There are plenty of good rss readers out there - many of them created because Google left the space. I think that this diversity and decentralisation is a net positive for the world.

You’re right on that last point: Reader was nice for the community scale but most of the feed readers I’ve used have more and better features – Google never treated Reader better than the proverbial red-headed stepchild and it was on life support for years before the end.

I would reframe that “never forget” advice to something along the lines of “never forget that corporations do not care about you” – Google had a reputation for being different and a lot of us believed that to some extent; sacrificing Reader trying to make people use Google+ was a watershed moment when a lot of people had to accept that their loyalty wasn’t reciprocated.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by clircle »

I actually find that for most feeds, I dislike chronological sorting. It is a good default, but I prefer to have rules that promote certain authors and keywords. For example, on my Arxiv feeds, I promote certain keywords, and "autoread" everything else. On news feeds, I promote articles about my specific area of the city.

I use Gnus to create my own recommendation engine to do this.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by acdha »

benzible wrote: post #41

Related, from Molly White's excellent review of Chris Dixon's Read Write Own [1]: > RSS is dead, he repeats endlessly throughout the book.[...] It's profoundly weird to read RSS's obituary as a person who checks her very-much-still-alive feed reader several times a day to get everything from cryptocurrency news to dinner ideas, and who rarely encounters a website that doesn't provide a functional feed. [1] https://ww…

I think that’s especially relevant given the context of that review. Chris Dixon is regurgitating a bunch of blockchain sales points because he has major investments in the space–a fact he’s not quick to share with readers–and needs to talk them up before he can exit. It’s worth asking whether he gives RSS the opposite treatment because he never figured out a way to get VC-scale returns out of a technology which isn’t amenable to gatekeeping.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by KronisLV »

carrozo wrote: post #69
mapreduce wrote: post #68

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Do you mean this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36575081

this was really cool. there should be a monthly "which blogs got updated this month?" post on HN like the hiring/wants to be hired posts.

Yep, that's the thread the data came from, would be cool to get more up to date data some time. I'm not sure whether enough people start new blogs for it to be a monthly thing, but once or twice per year would be neat!

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by Tommy430 »

RSS is still pretty great indeed. It's just that the big tech and social media services want you to believe that it's "dead" just to keep you hooked and addicted into their system as possible.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by Tommy430 »

beautron wrote: post #42
charcircuit wrote: post #7

Twitter addresses a bunch of the downsides of RSS that were listed. The author's criticism of Twitter seems to be that it is too easy for people to use, that it is too helpful in finding you things to read, and that if offers a way to reply to posts. These seem like a net benefit to me and if you don't want to see replies then don't click into a tweet.

But Twitter doesn't address many of the downsides of social media that were listed, or many of the upsides of RSS that were listed.

> But Twitter doesn't address many of the downsides of social media that were listed, or many of the upsides of RSS that were listed.

Seriously. You even have to log in just to view or search stuff.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by kevinfiol »

Woohoo, I love RSS. I feel this is a good a time as any to share Bubo RSS [0] by George Mandis, as well as my personal fork [1].

In essence, all it really is is a build script that reads your RSS feeds from a JSON file, and builds a static site as 1 HTML file and 1 CSS file. You can then run the script at whatever interval you want (basically however often you want to update your "feed"). I do this using Github Actions and publishing to Github Pages [2]. Anyway, its awesome and I've been doing this for a few years now.

[0] https://github.com/georgemandis/bubo-rss

[1] https://github.com/kevinfiol/rss-reader

[2] https://kevinfiol.com/reader

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by aendruk »

6510 wrote: post #38
kevincox wrote: post #2

> For example, there is really no way to tell aggregators that you changed an article's path. Of course there is, just change the URL. Both Atom and RSS have the concept of an "entry ID" which should never change, but anything else in the entry can just be updated (other than the published date I guess). However this is easy to misunderstand because in RSS it is optional and in Atom people frequently use the URL as t…

Never change the article path without a redirect. If I honor you with a well deserved link to your article in a section that requires the context, insights and perspective you provide it should not be made into a mistake to be avoided next time. I should not have to do the work for you - because I wont.

You’re preaching about the wrong issue. Arranging an HTTP redirect on your server won’t deduplicate records with mismanaged IDs in the aggregator.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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Post by charcircuit »

Tommy430 wrote: post #77
beautron wrote: post #42

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But Twitter doesn't address many of the downsides of social media that were listed, or many of the upsides of RSS that were listed.

> But Twitter doesn't address many of the downsides of social media that were listed, or many of the upsides of RSS that were listed. Seriously. You even have to log in just to view or search stuff.

Logging in makes it easy to sync your feed between devices. Making account is quick and easy.
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