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Re: RSS is still pretty great

#51

For a person who is not a techie, we find it really difficult to navigate and use RSS

https://theoldreader.com/

Just toss in a site you like, it'll (try to) find the RSS feed, and you're done.

I have about 50 sites added in the old reader, and it makes following them easy.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#52

Related, from Molly White's excellent review of Chris Dixon's Read Write Own [1]: > RSS is dead, he repeats endlessly throughout the book.[...] It's profoundly weird to read RSS's obituary as a person who checks her very-much-still-alive feed reader several times a day to get everything from cryptocurrency news to dinner ideas, and who rarely encounters a website that doesn't provide a functional feed. [1] https://ww…

This little footnote made the obituary of RSS even more hilarious:

> As it happens, Dixon's very own website has a functioning RSS feed. He may not even realize this, as RSS is so ubiquitous that many website and blog software products either build it in by default, or make it easy to add with simple plugins.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to help! I should have added I started light, then added in some more stuff once I had a working system. I had tried RSS years ago and my feed then was unwieldy enough I never checked it. This attempt is smaller and stuck

I was curious what would happen if you add many. Turns out that around 1000-3000 feeds the chaos starts to self-organize. I have 30 000+ subscriptions now and it's just wonderful. Beyond the sweet spot you cant not filter out topics covered by everyone. You are aware Tucker interviewed Vladimir, there is Genocide in Gaza, Bidden has nothing interesting to say anymore. You just cant have tens of thousands of articles…

How much time you spend reading the news?

It this point, I would probably invest some time into automating it even more. Download all articles, and save them into PDF. Create full text search over them. Use LLM for sentiment analysis...

We did something like that at bitcoin boom.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#55
post #46

Yay RSS :) A habit (useful one, i might add) i'll never get rid of :) Quick PSA here: if you ever want (or need) to filter a RSS feed to get rid of adverts, random rants of a certain topic you don't want to read about - there's RSS Bridge [1] which lets you do that. It also provides some bridges that let you subscribe to sites that don't even have an RSS feed via scraping, or YouTube channels or .... It's pretty much…

Just a heads up that YouTube channels do generally have RSS feeds; e.g.: https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?user=NFL or https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UC8WAaaW... But RSS Bridge does look very neat!

Just paste the channel URL until your reader and it should find the feed automatically. YouTube has the proper discovery metadata set up.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#56
post #9

I use rss for youtube and it's been great but lately a lot of "shorts" stuff has been junking up the feeds.

Best as I can tell there is no difference between Shorts and full length videos when coming from the RSS feed. It even loads in the full player on the website when following the url. The best I've come up with is to use youtube-dl to get the duration and if it's shorter then 60s drop the item.

I generally just use the thumbnail to quickly manually filter shorts. If the thumbnail is vertical it is 99% a short.

A few channels I subscribe to make interesting shorts so I keep them. But for everyone one else the delete key is very fast to press.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#57
post #47
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad to help! I should have added I started light, then added in some more stuff once I had a working system. I had tried RSS years ago and my feed then was unwieldy enough I never checked it. This attempt is smaller and stuck

I was curious what would happen if you add many. Turns out that around 1000-3000 feeds the chaos starts to self-organize. I have 30 000+ subscriptions now and it's just wonderful. Beyond the sweet spot you cant not filter out topics covered by everyone. You are aware Tucker interviewed Vladimir, there is Genocide in Gaza, Bidden has nothing interesting to say anymore. You just cant have tens of thousands of articles…

Sounds like you use GNUs. A wildebeest to set up, but, once done, nothing quite like it filters the filth.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#58
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was curious what would happen if you add many. Turns out that around 1000-3000 feeds the chaos starts to self-organize. I have 30 000+ subscriptions now and it's just wonderful. Beyond the sweet spot you cant not filter out topics covered by everyone. You are aware Tucker interviewed Vladimir, there is Genocide in Gaza, Bidden has nothing interesting to say anymore. You just cant have tens of thousands of articles…

How much time you spend reading the news? It this point, I would probably invest some time into automating it even more. Download all articles, and save them into PDF. Create full text search over them. Use LLM for sentiment analysis... We did something like that at bitcoin boom.

I spend 3-10 minutes scrolling over at least 1/3 of 5000 headlines. Today I open 12 in tabs doing that, I've looked at 3 of those.

I got rid of most things, I only keep [pubDate, url, title] and only if the title doesn't contain any badwords and the pubDate isn't older than the oldest item.

Each item comes with a hours and minutes ago a translate to English button, the domain name, and a blacklist button.

While it does take opml most of my feed lists are just txt files with one url per line.

It loads one of those files then pulls x feeds per second and parses y per second where x and y are adjusted to the pending requests and pending parse jobs.

While you could certainly do many interesting things most of my experiments didn't survive my desire to keep it simple. I for example use to dump the results on a web page. I couldn't convince myself it was useful to the goal.

Re: RSS is still pretty great

#59
post #9

I use rss for youtube and it's been great but lately a lot of "shorts" stuff has been junking up the feeds.

If you're possibly using Feedbin, I've been successfully using Feedbin's "Actions" to select for Shorts with the search field media_duration and then marking those items unter 60 seconds as read. That feature and the search syntax are a little bit hidden, but are worth it:

https://feedbin.com/help/search-syntax/

Re: RSS is still pretty great

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> For example, there is really no way to tell aggregators that you changed an article's path. Of course there is, just change the URL. Both Atom and RSS have the concept of an "entry ID" which should never change, but anything else in the entry can just be updated (other than the published date I guess). However this is easy to misunderstand because in RSS it is optional and in Atom people frequently use the URL as t…

Never change the article path without a redirect. If I honor you with a well deserved link to your article in a section that requires the context, insights and perspective you provide it should not be made into a mistake to be avoided next time. I should not have to do the work for you - because I wont.

That's why when I write something that I think will be read for years to come I use archive links to link to other pages.
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