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Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by therealdrag0 » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 8:19 AM UTC

bradly wrote: post #41

> One company used an IQ test This is interesting. I haven't had that one yet, but last week I had an application with a "personality" test that asked whether I tend to vote for left-leaning candidates or right-leaning candidates. This company was in the healthcare space. GitHub asking for approval for AI to review my resume was a bit of a beat too. I did not give permission, and it definitely left me feeling at a di…

I feel like coding exercises are nearly already IQ tests and it’d be simpler to just IQ test than have to try to come up with unique coding problems.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by aurareturn » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 9:08 AM UTC

hnrodey wrote: post #200

I believe the current hiring woes in the US are more nefarious than just being picky. First, I believe US companies are figuring out how to hire foreign teams at lower cost. I get multiple emails per week from companies offering us their team at low rates. South America and India are common places. I personally witnessed this at my last company where they drastically cut US/North America staff in favor of Indian team…

I've been saying for years that NA software devs should fight to RTO. If you can do do your job remotely, so can people across the world who will do it for 5x less.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by akvadrako » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 9:54 AM UTC

culopatin wrote: post #170

pyb wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author has 30+ years of experience and was applying to jobs paying less than 6 figures a year (USD). His expectation were modest, compared to the average US developer.

This is also not realistic (if other people in his position aim for much more). Wouldn’t you wonder “why is this person with 30 years of experience applying for this role? Maybe got confused? Maybe they’re troubled in some way? Maybe they’ll stay for 2 months and get bored and leave?”.

What is not realistic? We're talking about Sweden here.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by j7ake » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 10:22 AM UTC

angarg12 wrote: post #103

I'm a ML Engineer at FAANG and I have been passively looking for the last half year. Common wisdom might make you think that I should be having companies throwing wads of cash at me, but my experience has been very different. * It's true that my profile attracts many messages from recruiters. However ghosting is the name of the game. More than half of recruiters have ghosted me at different stages of the process. Ove…

People are no longer looking for ML , they’re looking for LLM.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by coldtea » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 11:45 AM UTC

bdw5204 wrote: post #180

coldtea wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> last week I had an application with a "personality" test that asked whether I tend to vote for left-leaning candidates or right-leaning candidates. That should be all kinds of illegal already. And "personality tests" in general should be made illegal too.

Asking which kind of politicians you vote for is pretty obviously about discriminating. But I'm not surprised that this is happening in health care because that space is highly politicized in the US and strong right wingers are likely to have moral objections to several medical procedures. Strong left wingers are likely to have moral objections to the American medical system's notoriously ruthless business practices.…

>Sadly, political affiliation and political belief are not protected classes under US civil rights law so employers can legally discriminate on this basis.

Really? This blows my mind! So a company could say "We're not hiring democrats or republicans" or something openly?

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by devwastaken » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 11:57 AM UTC

The jobs did not dissapear, they are being done remotely in far cheaper countries. Corps know that consumers are locked in, after all the pay politicians to ensure this. They also pay a specific color to ensure they can continue writing the rules of the game.

It would be a shame if they were unable to get their way next election and the rules be changed to promote in country innovation, hiring and manufacturing. It is the most ethical thing to do considering how much u.s. companies abuse workers overseas that have few to no laws.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by tgaj » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 12:18 PM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #252

neilv wrote: post #74

> Key Elements for Job Search Microsite > * Have a professional profile picture I don't do this, for two reasons: 1. Being a photographer taught me that I'm much better on the buttons side of the camera, not the lens side. 2. Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US. Due to the long history of unfair prejudices, which are still ongoing in some ways. Even better would be if we could remove names, for being cues…

> Photos really don't belong in hiring in the US. Sounds like someone needs to reread Don Burleson's professional dress code tips: https://www.dba-oracle.com/dress_code.htm Presenting a polished, professional appearance makes a real difference to employers. They can and will legally fire you (or choose not to hire you) for failure to do so.

I think it's more a problem of visible disabilities or just not looking attractive, than of a dress code.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by rc_hackernews » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 12:32 PM UTC

mr90210 wrote: post #160

Folks who were around during the tech bubble and during 2007/08, how bad the current market is compared to those two periods?

Graduated in 2008 right in the middle of the mortgage crisis.

It was really bad, but I was fresh out of college and had no experience.

Took me about 10 months to find a job in that market.

The market is definitely rough, but I wouldn’t say it’s that bad yet.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by dozaa » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 12:34 PM UTC

MichaelRo wrote: post #245

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is so sad. If I ever had to get paid 5 figures after 30 years I worked literally switch careers.

>> This is so sad. If I ever had to get paid 5 figures after 30 years I worked literally switch careers. It's Sweden / Stockholm, not Silicon Valley / San Francisco. I've looked up real estate there just to point out how ridiculously inflated prices are here. A nice looking 67 square meters apartment, 15 minutes from city center, was selling for some €190,000. By comparison a 50 square meters rather communist-looking…

This is pretty accurate. Price/salary ranges are much more stable than the US. His salary ask for 30 years is not as far fetched as the Americans here think. Source: live in Norway.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by Justsignedup » Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 1:21 PM UTC

angarg12 wrote: post #103

I'm a ML Engineer at FAANG and I have been passively looking for the last half year. Common wisdom might make you think that I should be having companies throwing wads of cash at me, but my experience has been very different. * It's true that my profile attracts many messages from recruiters. However ghosting is the name of the game. More than half of recruiters have ghosted me at different stages of the process. Ove…

To note, staff position requirements are very high. One because they cost a lot, and two because they're looking for proven people.

Going from senior to staff or principal is a huge leap.

Personally I have no idea how people expect to get staff at 6 years of experience. I'd expect a minimum of 8-10. You just need experience there. Below that you better be a genius.