I've been looking for a job for the past 6 months or so. Last time I looked for a job 4 years ago, I would get so many calls and I had to drop many of them. Now that I'm even more experienced and I have a stellar resume, I'm struggling to get first interviews. I ace every interview I get BTW; both technical and communication. I'm just not given the chance to prove myself. There's something weird going on.
Finding a new software developer job
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#192I've been looking for a job for the past 6 months or so. Last time I looked for a job 4 years ago, I would get so many calls and I had to drop many of them. Now that I'm even more experienced and I have a stellar resume, I'm struggling to get first interviews. I ace every interview I get BTW; both technical and communication. I'm just not given the chance to prove myself. There's something weird going on.
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#193>For a typical job there were four or five interviews: an initial interview with a recruiter, an interview with a hiring manager, one or two technical interviews (either live coding, or going through a take-home assignment). There could also be an interview with a product manager, and/or one with a CTO or founder. All in all, quite a time commitment. This is not news at this point, but it is pretty crazy.
That's not crazy. Some of these are probably what 30 minutes? Tech interviews 60 mins? So what, five hours? Remember when on-site interviews meant an hour total commute plus say six hours of total interview plus lunch event. Some high demand companies put candidates through more than one round of that. Not to mention if you were flying from out of town... I remember a friend who interviewed with Google and got stuck…
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#194Folks who were around during the tech bubble and during 2007/08, how bad the current market is compared to those two periods?
Things were worse back then. Nowadays, you could apply to 30 jobs in a day. Back then, there weren't even 30 jobs, maybe like 2 new ones every month.
I am going to sounds like a grumpy old timer, but I don't care...
I see far too many young people on social media complaining about how hard it is to find a job now, but at least you can post a tik Tok about it and potentially go viral and maybe even score a brand deal [1]. I remember applying to Target and Starbucks, and then never hearing back, so I have been there, done that. I did not get a job with health insurance until I was 25, which was also when I was finally able to move out of my parents' house.
This happens every 8-10 years. Nothing really new, expect this time was not as bad as 2007/2008. Back then, almost all companies had mass layoffs all at once. Today, they come in coordinated waves.
[1] https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/gen-z-tiktoker-goes-viral-21...
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#195I'm a ML Engineer at FAANG and I have been passively looking for the last half year. Common wisdom might make you think that I should be having companies throwing wads of cash at me, but my experience has been very different. * It's true that my profile attracts many messages from recruiters. However ghosting is the name of the game. More than half of recruiters have ghosted me at different stages of the process. Ove…
FAANG reputations are no longer evenly distributed. Even though most people's opinions of the company have changed, Google engineers are still widely considered to be high quality. Apple engineers also have a great reputation but it's very rare to see them on the market. Facebook/meta engineers tend to be above average but have a reputation for being aggressive corporate ladder climbers. But if I hazard a guess, if y…
Sometimes they're able to adapt though and have a really positive impact overall. But the sour experiences really woke me up regarding seeing it as a mostly positive signal that someone worked at FAANG. So I wouldn't see FAANG as a guarantee about anything, no matter which company was their previous one.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Please don't do this, and don't normalize other people doing it Unfortunately, that's how the competitive market works. People shouldn't be penalized for the tech stack that their company used vs. what companies are looking for. Skills from one platform to another are very fungible (eg - Java/.NET, AWS/Azure), so "beefing up" a resume is what's required if you plan on getting any calls back. > Dishonesty isn't some…
> Unfortunately, that's how the competitive market works. That's how some people think the competitive market works. It's not universal. Which is why I just contradicted that, and called to not encourage those beliefs. Put loosely, half the job of an engineer is to tell the truth. What I think you're characterizing is a corporate bullshit shoveler who just wants to go through the bullshit motions to get a paycheck. I…
But when i catch someone lying at least twice about something technical, i do my part to make sure the person is not hired or next to leave. There is no trust.
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#197I am a bit surprised, after reading the article I thought the author would be a junior with 5 years or less experience. With 30+ years of experience the job hunting should be easier, just call some people you know...
I don't think people here with jobs even understand how bad it is. My whole career I've always been in high demand. I've always got multiple offers when looking for work. I rarely ever get ghosted. Looking for a job has just always been extremely easy. However, right now I'd probably need to apply for 20+ roles just get a single call back. I might need to apply for 50 roles to to get an interview.
To your point on "just call someone" this has been happening. People are texting me and sending me LinkedIn messages constantly at the moment. I don't really know what people expect... Most people you know are probably not in a position where they can convince their company to just hire someone on recommendation and few companies are hiring anyway. At best they can say, "yeah, my company is hiring", but you're still going to be put into a pile of 300+ other people applying for the same role.
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#198We ended up building the biggest WordPress sites in the world, by volume of traffic served. By the end of it WordPress wasn't WordPress anymore with all of the plugins we built that basically replaced whole sections of it.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
The discrimination in Europe works slightly differently than in the US, as having a native sounding name is just as, or even more, important than having a "right" skin color. So to be certain you'll avoid discrimination, you'd need to omit both the photo and the name from the CV, and that's not common at all.
Should we also hide the names of the universities we went to and the names of former employers we worked at?
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#200First, I believe US companies are figuring out how to hire foreign teams at lower cost. I get multiple emails per week from companies offering us their team at low rates. South America and India are common places. I personally witnessed this at my last company where they drastically cut US/North America staff in favor of Indian teams with a pure cost motive. Literally dozens of jobs including SE and supporting roles shipped overseas.
Second, I believe US companies are asserting back control over the labor market. Employees took a lot of control in the Covid era so companies have to be looking to fix that.
I hope something changes soon. I’m in the early stages of a job search and it’s a tad frustrating. I’ve experienced many of things reported by other commenters including ghosting, no response at all or my favorite which is “lack of years of experience for a requirement” (Example must have 3 years experience with .NET 6)