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Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by sombrero_john »

morgante wrote: post #45
BadHumans wrote: post #36

Bit of a rant but I also have been job hunting after a layoff and their experience sounds like a dream. I have only gotten email rejections thus far and only 1 phone screen. It feels like most of my rejections are just automatic emails. Some of them come same day. The most demoralizing thing happens when you get rejected for a job and then see a new listing for that same job go up just moments later. You were rejecte…

I'm not sure why you think companies have an obligation to talk to every candidate that applies. It's pretty common to get hundreds of applications for any open role now, and the most visible companies get thousands of applications. A majority of those applications can be disqualified from the resume alone. It would be a massive waste of everyone's time to talk to every applicant.

OP is obviously ranting because they are frustrated and dejected. Have a little empathy.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by BadHumans »

morgante wrote: post #45
BadHumans wrote: post #36

Bit of a rant but I also have been job hunting after a layoff and their experience sounds like a dream. I have only gotten email rejections thus far and only 1 phone screen. It feels like most of my rejections are just automatic emails. Some of them come same day. The most demoralizing thing happens when you get rejected for a job and then see a new listing for that same job go up just moments later. You were rejecte…

I'm not sure why you think companies have an obligation to talk to every candidate that applies. It's pretty common to get hundreds of applications for any open role now, and the most visible companies get thousands of applications. A majority of those applications can be disqualified from the resume alone. It would be a massive waste of everyone's time to talk to every applicant.

Never did I say companies should talk to everyone that applies but I do think everyone should at least get a response. Half of my applications are dead air.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by [deleted] »

morgante wrote: post #45
BadHumans wrote: post #36

Bit of a rant but I also have been job hunting after a layoff and their experience sounds like a dream. I have only gotten email rejections thus far and only 1 phone screen. It feels like most of my rejections are just automatic emails. Some of them come same day. The most demoralizing thing happens when you get rejected for a job and then see a new listing for that same job go up just moments later. You were rejecte…

I'm not sure why you think companies have an obligation to talk to every candidate that applies. It's pretty common to get hundreds of applications for any open role now, and the most visible companies get thousands of applications. A majority of those applications can be disqualified from the resume alone. It would be a massive waste of everyone's time to talk to every applicant.

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Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by neilv »

> All recruiters I was in contact with asked for my CV, even though it is mostly the same information that is already on my LinkedIn profile. It is almost as if it is a sign that you are serious.

I think it's a token that they can forward to an employer, establishing some degree of your consent to them representing you.

(Like in a story of visiting some foreign culture, when someone offers you tea they made in some foreign cup, you take a sip from it, and then someone else tells you that you just got married.)

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by pyb »

qwertygnu wrote: post #25

I don't question that is takes hard work, even for more senior devs like the author, but 30 apps leading to 3 offers is a dream. Most early-career people are probably at >100 app with maybe a few interviews and hopefully one offer.

The author has 30+ years of experience and was applying to jobs paying less than 6 figures a year (USD). His expectation were modest, compared to the average US developer.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by BadHumans »

sombrero_john wrote: post #51
morgante wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you think companies have an obligation to talk to every candidate that applies. It's pretty common to get hundreds of applications for any open role now, and the most visible companies get thousands of applications. A majority of those applications can be disqualified from the resume alone. It would be a massive waste of everyone's time to talk to every applicant.

OP is obviously ranting because they are frustrated and dejected. Have a little empathy.

Thanks for the understanding :)

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by bradly »

cdelsolar wrote: post #29

what's the database timeout answer? i would say something along the lines of 5 seconds max.

I lot of times questions like these are to see how someone thinks about problems. What questions do they ask to clarify the problem. I'm not saying this is good question for that, but I wouldn't assume questions have a "right" answer.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by BadHumans »

andy99 wrote: post #47
BadHumans wrote: post #36

Bit of a rant but I also have been job hunting after a layoff and their experience sounds like a dream. I have only gotten email rejections thus far and only 1 phone screen. It feels like most of my rejections are just automatic emails. Some of them come same day. The most demoralizing thing happens when you get rejected for a job and then see a new listing for that same job go up just moments later. You were rejecte…

Rejections are great info, especially quick ones. It's the companies that never respond or start the process then ghost that are the real problem. There you learn absolutely nothing.

You learn nothing regardless. There is never any information about why you get rejected or why you were passed over. The only difference between getting rejected and not getting rejected is that you at least have closure on that application.

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by sys_64738 »

stefan_ wrote: post #6
arter4 wrote: post #2

>For a typical job there were four or five interviews: an initial interview with a recruiter, an interview with a hiring manager, one or two technical interviews (either live coding, or going through a take-home assignment). There could also be an interview with a product manager, and/or one with a CTO or founder. All in all, quite a time commitment. This is not news at this point, but it is pretty crazy.

In my experience they could reliably cut out the recruiter and hiring manager interviews.

How has that worked out for you not knowing anything about the manager you'll report to?

Re: Finding a new software developer job

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Post by BadHumans »

cryptozeus wrote: post #38
BadHumans wrote: post #36

Bit of a rant but I also have been job hunting after a layoff and their experience sounds like a dream. I have only gotten email rejections thus far and only 1 phone screen. It feels like most of my rejections are just automatic emails. Some of them come same day. The most demoralizing thing happens when you get rejected for a job and then see a new listing for that same job go up just moments later. You were rejecte…

Try running it through chatgpt. Give your resume and give job discretion. Ask if your resume is a match for this job. You will be surprised.

I've used ChatGPT to improve my resume but have never just outright asked for suitability based on the job description. I'll give it a shot.
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