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I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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post #7

Love the recommendation for diceware style passwords. You can easily remember 4 to 6 random words. You really will be surprised how quickly it is to memorize and type after a day or two. Mixing them up with what separator (if any) that you use, and if you number/special character substitute that adds dozens of possible permutations on a single password. And just using 4-letter words (over 100,000 in the English langu…

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Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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I don't understand why people jump through so many hoops and complexities when it comes to passwords. Like "seasonal" passwords described in this article. Multiple friends have told me they have an "algorithm" they use to derive their password for any website (it's basically a manual mental hash of some base password and the website name). Other friends have told me they keep a rotation of 3-5 passwords and have a ru…

A password manager relies on a single point of failure secret (master password), while the website-hash approach relies on a single point of failure secret (master key derivation algorithm).

It's really no different, so I think there must be some human biased thinking at play. Except the password manager requires a central or synchronizing computer system, while the in-head key derivation approach requires no such thing.

The trade off is that pass mgnrs give more convenience, but have slightly more failure modes (not knowing the master password, not having access to the synchronization or master vault, not wanting to log into a pass mngr on a potentially compromised computer when you only need a single password you are willing to sacrifice) while the in-head approach has a single one: not remembering the derivation method.

ETA: both are sensitive to sites changing names or URLs. But password managers more so (requiring extra searching and clicks) while in a mental key derivation context, you would probably remember "oh, it's protonmail." without explicitly needing to distinguish "login.proton.me" from their old URL. But, that does make the key derivation approach slightly more susceptible to phishing. Not seeing the password autofill at least gives mental pause.

Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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I don't understand why people jump through so many hoops and complexities when it comes to passwords. Like "seasonal" passwords described in this article. Multiple friends have told me they have an "algorithm" they use to derive their password for any website (it's basically a manual mental hash of some base password and the website name). Other friends have told me they keep a rotation of 3-5 passwords and have a ru…

For one, a password manager was in the news recently for a data breach, doesn't help the public perception

Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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I don't understand why people jump through so many hoops and complexities when it comes to passwords. Like "seasonal" passwords described in this article. Multiple friends have told me they have an "algorithm" they use to derive their password for any website (it's basically a manual mental hash of some base password and the website name). Other friends have told me they keep a rotation of 3-5 passwords and have a ru…

I use password managers myself, but the 'all my eggs in one basket' dimension is a burden and requires planning.

Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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post #29

My personal favorite method for passwords is come up with a passphrase I can remember, encode it to base 64, and use the encoded string as the password. If its not too long, the encoded version is usually not hard to memorize either.

I usually do this:

tr -cd "[:alnum:]" Then I use an encrypted text file via Emacs to store my passwords

Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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I don't understand why people jump through so many hoops and complexities when it comes to passwords. Like "seasonal" passwords described in this article. Multiple friends have told me they have an "algorithm" they use to derive their password for any website (it's basically a manual mental hash of some base password and the website name). Other friends have told me they keep a rotation of 3-5 passwords and have a ru…

This. I’m so glad I started using one a couple of months back. Just pick a good master password and be done with it.

Re: I Know What Your Password Was Last Summer

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post #6

I always wonder why employers don't just set passwords for their users and only give them the option to randomize them. Seems like an ideal solution, if using passwords is a requirement.

The better option for employers is to just get rid of passwords and move to something like FIDO2.
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