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A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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These kinds of things are side-effects of "tenant's rights" laws. Some may consider it the end-goal, to be fair - as eventually you'd drive landlords completely out of business. The problem is that this is antithetical to higher density, because you need landlords of some form if you have anything denser than a duplex. You can have condos perhaps, but not everyone can afford to get into one, or even wants to. And if…

> you need landlords of some form if you have anything denser than a duplex Why? What value do they provide, other than having a bunch of money upfront? I’d argue there are many, many ways to fund building construction other than for-profit ownership

They provide there being someone to rent from.

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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> I want to walk, not drive, out my front door, and be within 15 minutes, on foot, from entertainment and dining and friends and shopping and groceries and pharmacies and salons and cafes. I live in a city, you can have all of those things here. In fact, we have an entire stretch down the side of a river that has restaurants and other things down the side of it. The housing in that area is some of the most expensive…

> I live in a city, you can have all of those things here. ... but still doesn't touch NYC One way of thinking about this is that everyone in NYC is wrong. Another way of thinking about this is that NYC might have more of those things and then some. Does your city have a dozen museums, dozens of museums, or hundreds of museums? Does your city have a 24/365 public transit system? Bodega cats? Offices of all of the top…

I make more than the average NYC person and pay far far less than them to live.

apply whatever the hell you want to rationalize that existence, I don't personally care.

When you're done screaming about how terrible it is that you'll never own a home, come join sanity.

or don't. I don't give a shit about your rationalization.

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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I'm interpreting that as you have eczema on your genitals or anus, I don't know much about eczema so can't speak to the condition so I'll speak in general. My mother has heart issues and she has a pump that's connected to her 24/7. She has a medical condition and so has special needs. I would not call that pump an essential but it certainly is essential for her. The context of this conversation has been _in general_,…

> defecating and urinating are absolutely essential activities But doing them in a toilet is not, unless we start expanding the definition of essential to include dignity and thriving.

I mean, you're free to make the claim and I honestly hope it makes you feel better about yourself.

buuut... well you know your response is bullshit.

hey guys, dontcha know the only essentials are death and taxes! otherwise you have to admit that a brand new car driven off the lot is also an essential!

yeah, ok...

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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then they should stop complaining about the result of their choices. what I'm incredulous about is the constant complaints followed by an obvious solution but no action towards it.

That's not a solution for them, with their preferences and needs. You don't seem to grasp a fundamental issue: Your needs are not a universal truth; they are only yours (and whoever happens to share them). New Yorkers really have different preferences; they don't want what you want, any more than vice-versa. And while they make the best choice they can, they can still have problems with it - what in the world works o…

for a multi-millionaire, living off of 500k is not a solution for them.

no one gives a shit, seriously. This is the worlds tiniest violent playing for those who refuse to adjust to not having as much resources as they'd like to have.

oh man, I'm so turrble, telling them they should probably live as if they're only half-millionaries.

offly enough, reality doesn't give a shit.

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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Taylor Swift is preferred by a much larger number of people than Thelonius Monk is; does that make Swift 'better' than Monk? The quality of something and validity of people's preferences doesn't depend on popularity.

> Taylor Swift is preferred by a much larger number of people than Thelonius Monk is; does that make Swift 'better' than Monk? For the average human music listener, yes that is what that means. Should we dive into the relationship between "preferred" and "better"? The preference is not individually objective, but objectively the people have spoken.

> Should we dive into the relationship between "preferred" and "better"?

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. They are not the same things; there is nothing magical about subjective preference that makes something 'better', no matter how many people share it. If they like burritos and I like ramen, does that make burritos 'better'?

In fact, people can prefer things that are clearly 'worse', for many purposes, such as beer over hydration fluid. People can prefer things that are clearly wrong, such as disinformation.

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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That's not a solution for them, with their preferences and needs. You don't seem to grasp a fundamental issue: Your needs are not a universal truth; they are only yours (and whoever happens to share them). New Yorkers really have different preferences; they don't want what you want, any more than vice-versa. And while they make the best choice they can, they can still have problems with it - what in the world works o…

for a multi-millionaire, living off of 500k is not a solution for them. no one gives a shit, seriously. This is the worlds tiniest violent playing for those who refuse to adjust to not having as much resources as they'd like to have. oh man, I'm so turrble, telling them they should probably live as if they're only half-millionaries. offly enough, reality doesn't give a shit.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be responding to a person or counterpoint you are thinking about, but I don't see here on HN. Anyway, have a good one!

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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So your issue is emotional. I won't speak to your story but that's not been my experience and yes, this is a conservative area. I'm left leaning but have friends on both sides of the aisle and of varying religions. I did once get fired for admitting to being agnostic but I dismissed it as assholes, every area has assholes. By far most of the people I run with and encounter don't act like that.

Dude you lost your job because of closed-minded bigotry and you're still confused why people might prefer to avoid those locations? For lots of people the stakes aren't being fired, they're being murdered. If you're fired for being agnostic how safe do you think a transgender person is where you are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhl9MLno424

go watch that and understand that conservative areas where BY FAR more supportive than New York.

This is a common trope amongst youtubers and they _consistently_ find that these conservative areas are more accepting than the liberal areas such as New York. And they're more willing to speak up.

But go on, explain to me why an asshole defines the entire region. I want to hear how we have more assholes and somehow can't be forgiven for that, but apparently NYC can!

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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You’re the one playing bad faith word games and being incredibly rude and obnoxious.

It was really a genuine question. I was not attacking them; I think they offer a valuable perspective.

oh yeah, they love me and my views so much! if only I weren't so terrible they could love me even more!

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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> Taylor Swift is preferred by a much larger number of people than Thelonius Monk is; does that make Swift 'better' than Monk? For the average human music listener, yes that is what that means. Should we dive into the relationship between "preferred" and "better"? The preference is not individually objective, but objectively the people have spoken.

> Should we dive into the relationship between "preferred" and "better"? Yes, that's what I'm talking about. They are not the same things; there is nothing magical about subjective preference that makes something 'better', no matter how many people share it. If they like burritos and I like ramen, does that make burritos 'better'? In fact, people can prefer things that are clearly 'worse', for many purposes, such as…

ultimately, when someone takes this stance what they really mean is that nothing is knowable so you're a terrible person for judging someone as if you know something!

sue me. I think food for someone without food is more important than a middle class person being able to drive a brand new car.

You can manipulate language as much as you want, I will still judge you for that opinion.

A large part of why I made the post I did is because people post shit like this on this website and expect to be protected by such judgements.

absolutely not, it's an immoral stance made by moneyed people who believe this site is a safe space.

Re: A rent-stabilized 1 bedroom apartment for $1,100 In NYC? broker's fee is $15K

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for a multi-millionaire, living off of 500k is not a solution for them. no one gives a shit, seriously. This is the worlds tiniest violent playing for those who refuse to adjust to not having as much resources as they'd like to have. oh man, I'm so turrble, telling them they should probably live as if they're only half-millionaries. offly enough, reality doesn't give a shit.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be responding to a person or counterpoint you are thinking about, but I don't see here on HN. Anyway, have a good one!

This is one of those situations where people make claims but that doesn't make them valid.

If a multi-millionaire cannot accept a solution that has them living like someone worth 500k, maybe the issue is with them as the vast majority of people survive while being worth far less.

But hey, repeat how you just can't understand what I'm saying, I'm sure enough people will believe that to make it worth saying.

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