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Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

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Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

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I was talking a friend in China about bed bugs recently. They said there is a medicine people take which makes our blood poisonous to them. Ironically enough, it's ivermectine... Makes sense I suppose, it targets parasites and bed bugs are a parasite. I read some papers about it, too. Doesn't seem to be a panacea but potentially useful in combination with traditional pest control.

How is that ironic? It's primary use in humans is versus parasites. It's a godsend against scabies... (Which I had at the beginning of the pandemic, my doctor casually mentioning "it also has known anti-viral properties")

I know someone who is using it topically for rosacea. I guess some forms at least are a reaction to mites. So bye bye mites.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#42
post #6

Even the best hotels have dealt with bedbugs. For safety, leave your luggage in your car for a few days when you return from a trip. Ideally, you want the temperature to either drop below freezing or rise above 100°F, which will kill bedbugs. The same procedure should be employed with used furniture, perhaps more aggressively. There is also a trick with dry ice and talcum powder if you think an infestation is startin…

IIRC, below freezing also isn't generally good enough -- I forget what the specifics are from when I cared a lot about it 5+ years ago, but it's something like -20C consistently for a few whole days for all the stages of bedbug and their eggs to be destroyed by cold. They're surprisingly resistant to death from cold -- but a good hot dryer at 120F for ~30+ minutes will definitely get 'em.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

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Personally I've had great difficulty getting rid of Silverfishes. Despite plugging all crevices with diatomaceous sand, making sure indoor temperature does not exceed 18°C, removing any specimen on sight, I still encounter one every now and then just chilling on the wall or floor. They've eaten my underfloor isolation (the floor sags at those spots now), but other than that they're harmless - I can't imagine the horr…

Just spray permethrin and be done with it. It's the only thing that works and if you spray in all the right places, one round of spraying fixes it forever.

Source: about 15 years of fighting silverfish, until someone suggested permethrin on Reddit

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#44

Heat treatment is the only sure way to eradicate bedbugs. A neighbor fumigated five times and they still remained…until heat treatment. Diatomaceous earth just scatters them, compounding the problem.

Freezers also work don’t they?

Might come a day when a defunct restaurant gets acquired by a pest control company and used to freeze items too expensive or dear to replace. But they’d have to use one truck for pickup and one for drop off to prevent cross contamination.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#45
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once awoke to see a large spider running away from me on my bed. I was a bit displeased with that until I learned that they hunt roaches. I figured if it was running away from me, then it figured (perhaps incorrectly) that I was not to be messed with and so the food chain in my house remained as it should be.

I think it is always correct to run away from something 100 times bigger than you!

They would be 1.7cm long if they were 100 time smaller than the average human. Seems to check out.

I’m glad you weren’t referring to weight. The average human weighs 60-80kg, depending on what region you’re in. The heaviest spider is the Goliath, grows up to 13cm, but only weighs up to 135grams…

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#46
post #5

I worked pest control for a few years until 2021. We all knew that pesticides basically don’t work on bed bugs—it was old news. The article glosses over heat treatments, which is odd, because it really does work, and usually in a single session. It’s a very labor-intensive and invasive procedure, though. The residents must leave the house for 8 hours while the techs bake each room and throw everything around. By the…

I read once they get into beds by crawling up the bedposts and by putting something smooth like aluminum cups around the posts, the bugs cannot crawl up. What do you think of that?

If the infestation is heavy enough they will climb the walls and drop from the ceiling.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#47
post #42
post #6

Even the best hotels have dealt with bedbugs. For safety, leave your luggage in your car for a few days when you return from a trip. Ideally, you want the temperature to either drop below freezing or rise above 100°F, which will kill bedbugs. The same procedure should be employed with used furniture, perhaps more aggressively. There is also a trick with dry ice and talcum powder if you think an infestation is startin…

IIRC, below freezing also isn't generally good enough -- I forget what the specifics are from when I cared a lot about it 5+ years ago, but it's something like -20C consistently for a few whole days for all the stages of bedbug and their eggs to be destroyed by cold. They're surprisingly resistant to death from cold -- but a good hot dryer at 120F for ~30+ minutes will definitely get 'em.

This exactly. Freezing is useless unless you have something like a lab freezer that gets to -50C. Hot dryer for clothes, and you can put empty luggage in a dark trash bag and leave it in the sun to heat treat.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#48
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have centipedes in your house then de facto you have other bugs. They’re strictly carnivores. So as cool and helpful as they are, their continued existence indicates you have other problems as well. Best to consider them like Sully in the movie Commando: “ I like you. I’m gonna kill you last. ”

How is it possible to have a house with no insects? I just don't even see that as feasible, except maybe for a small new house with no shrubbery (and probably in a desert environment?). There ain't no way you're living in a house with zero bugs.

I’m not saying there can be zero bugs. I’m saying if you regularly find centipedes, then there’s enough other bugs to sustain them. They don’t just go outside to hit up a local cafe then come back home after.

Plus, they can live for 5-6 years. The bigger they are, the longer they’ve been there too.

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

#49
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read once they get into beds by crawling up the bedposts and by putting something smooth like aluminum cups around the posts, the bugs cannot crawl up. What do you think of that?

If the infestation is heavy enough they will climb the walls and drop from the ceiling.

NOPE. Fucking nightmares. Done with internet, today.

I'm going to go do my dishes, while contemplating burning the whole thing down =D

Re: Getting rid of bed bugs: trickier than ever

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Personally I've had great difficulty getting rid of Silverfishes. Despite plugging all crevices with diatomaceous sand, making sure indoor temperature does not exceed 18°C, removing any specimen on sight, I still encounter one every now and then just chilling on the wall or floor. They've eaten my underfloor isolation (the floor sags at those spots now), but other than that they're harmless - I can't imagine the horr…

You need (perhaps multiple) dehumidifiers.

Keep at 40-45% rel.hum. and silverfish will disappear.

Don't keep food unsealed (looking at you: unwashed dishwear) and cockroaches will disappear.

Have neither and centipedes will disappear.

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No advice for bedbugs other than Diatomacious Earth and not bringing in used furniture / houseguests.

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