Creeped Out [pdf]
21–30 of 41 posts
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#22A concept that's specific to the English language is probably a rather idiosyncratic disjunction of properties and not worth writing philosophy papers about. E.g. German has no proper translation for "creepy", we would use different words for various cases described by it. It's like thinking there is some global concept "can" that includes both "being able to" and "being allowed to", just because in the English langu…
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#23A concept that's specific to the English language is probably a rather idiosyncratic disjunction of properties and not worth writing philosophy papers about. E.g. German has no proper translation for "creepy", we would use different words for various cases described by it. It's like thinking there is some global concept "can" that includes both "being able to" and "being allowed to", just because in the English langu…
nope, "can" states ability, "may" permission
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#24A concept that's specific to the English language is probably a rather idiosyncratic disjunction of properties and not worth writing philosophy papers about. E.g. German has no proper translation for "creepy", we would use different words for various cases described by it. It's like thinking there is some global concept "can" that includes both "being able to" and "being allowed to", just because in the English langu…
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
nope, "can" states ability, "may" permission
"You can't do that" = You are not allowed to do that
If you want to speak to the social / political impossibility, you use "can." If you want to speak to the fact that it's forbidden by authority, you say "allowed."
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#26Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#27> Being creeped out is a feeling or reaction that is valuable for some other reasons as well. A shared sense of what is creepy can make for social bonding, either in the face of a joint threat or annoyance, or just to feel fellow feelings in shared reactions. Being creeped out as a bonding circle jerk is all fun and games, until what the group is creeped out by are people from some ethnic group.
> The fact that being creeped out is a relatively visceral reaction that appears to require little cultural scaffolding suggests that it is a response with origins, at least in part, deep in our evolutionary history: and we might predict that there would be a suite of relatively old emotional responses with the function of avoiding threats in our environment, including by drawing attention to those threats.
Calling someone a 'creep', does not necessarily require the experience of being creeped out by the person, which the articles points out as distinction several times.
I think prejudices, racism, etc. and induced emotions like anger, fear, hatred and resentment, usually come from a place of fiction, simplification and overfitting - somewhat the opposite of perceived unpredictability and uncertain danger in innate actuality, required for being creeped out.
That said, I think people, hate groups, do deliberately invoke the feeling of being creeped out for propaganda purposes, to associate these feelings remotely and to induce fear, or a sense of threat. By projecting common, genuinely creepy experiences or situations onto uncreepy scenarios. For example, the archetype of the 'creepy pervert man' is projected onto the "bathroom confrontation with a trans woman" scenario. That only works as abstract fiction in media, as actual confrontations would not induce the feeling of being creeped out - missing the innate perception and response to an uncanny, unpredictable behavior and uncertain threat - because trans women, and most people assigned 'trans woman' are not, in fact, creepy pervert men. However, meeting a trans woman may induce a sense of threat, now.
If you meet a bear in the woods you may feel fear, you have a clear threat model. If a wolf howls close-by at night, you may feel creeped out, as you are uncertain about a concrete threat. If a racist meets a black person on the street they may feel fear, since "all black people are criminals". If a man follows you at night, you may feel creeped out, because you are uncertain about his motives. I'd argue, being creeped out has a bias towards in-group threats, as it increases the ambiguity of situational safety.
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
or sexual orientation, or gender, or...
at some point, I noticed that “creepy“ was almost exclusively used to describe males
> It can also play a useful role in social coordination: when we evince being creeped out at another’s behavior, this can be a signal to those who notice that we dislike or disapprove of that kind of behavior. If it gets back to the person engaging in the behavior, it may regulate their actions as well. Few people enjoy being thought of as a creep. A sexual harasser, for example, might not mind being thought of as a scoundrel, but would not want to be considered creepy.
Further reading:
> The trend results from 2003 to 2012 showed the vast majority of crimes were still committed by men with around 88% of homicides and 75% of all legal felonies.
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#29There's a weird thing in online discourse, especially Twitter, where creepy, gross and disgusting stand in for moral judgements and enforcement of social norms. Maybe it's just a current style, or maybe people choose it because it's hard to argue against a feeling the way you argue against a judgement. I feel, though, that it's infantilizing the discussion. We are not going to find common ground if, for example, one…
> I feel, though, that it's infantilizing the discussion. hard to argue with a feeling
Re: Creeped Out [pdf]
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
"You can't do that" = You are not allowed to do that
Sort of? It's along the lines of "Das kannst Du hier nicht machen!" it's sort of a metaphor. Yes, technically there's no physical impediment, but the social ones are high. If you want to speak to the social / political impossibility, you use "can." If you want to speak to the fact that it's forbidden by authority, you say "allowed."