Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
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Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#2I wonder if they'll still do this once Reddit IPOs
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#3Once again, IP addr is not a person. If you want to reveal who's who, you need to have a search warrant.
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#4> Voltage Holdings and Screen Media Ventures cited Reddit posts in which users say that Frontier didn't terminate their Internet service despite sending many copyright infringement notices about torrent downloads. One of the users wrote, "I got a total of 44 emails from frontier about downloading torrents and that it could terminate service. They haven't yet. And I kinda feel like if they didn't do it after 44 emails. That they won't… ."
Don't they just want to file a lawsuit against Frontier? What is Reddit's involvement other than their website being used for this communication?
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#5> Voltage Holdings and Screen Media Ventures cited Reddit posts in which users say that Frontier didn't terminate their Internet service despite sending many copyright infringement notices about torrent downloads. One of the users wrote, "I got a total of 44 emails from frontier about downloading torrents and that it could terminate service. They haven't yet. And I kinda feel like if they didn't do it after 44 emails…
My understanding is that the users in question were talking about piracy or committing piracy on reddit and the movie companies want to get the IPs of those users from reddit in order to prove that Frontier isnt terminating people committing piracy.
Alternatively, depending on how large the list of users they requested IPs for from reddit is, it could be a fishing expedition to see if any of them happen to belong to frontier
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#6Once again, IP addr is not a person. If you want to reveal who's who, you need to have a search warrant.
This isn’t about identifying a particular user, it’s about showing that Frontier does nothing to quell piracy by its users and thus provides an incentive to pirates to use their network.
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#7Once again, IP addr is not a person. If you want to reveal who's who, you need to have a search warrant.
> IP addr is not a person
And most IPV4 addresses are vague and only give a coarse location of where you are, and they're typically shared among many others so an IP is not a guaranteed signal that it was 'you' who pirated stuff.
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#8> Firms wanted seven years' worth of IP address logs on users who discussed piracy.
Does that mean reddit stores ip addresses for 7 years? That seems excessive.
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#9This lawsuit is a big ad for Frontier. I'm going to see what services they offer.
Re: Reddit beats film industry again, won't have to reveal pirates' IP addresses
#10I wonder if they'll still do this once Reddit IPOs
Only if the film industry can figure out how to tank Reddit's stock price when it doesn't. It's a misalignment of incentives. Unless Reddit is exclusively associated with piracy and bad actors, most advertisers will probably ignore the bad press* and keep giving them money.
* I'm not even sure it'd be bad press. Internet users aren't overly fond of film companies and we're talking about a meme factory against the people who said "You wouldn't download a car."