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Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

reaperman wrote: post #19
gmerc wrote: post #8

Just enforcing the law. Happens all the time https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/24/google-of...

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

> for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person

Criminal versus civil. This sounds like sanctions suspicions.

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by mrtksn »

reaperman wrote: post #19
gmerc wrote: post #8

Just enforcing the law. Happens all the time https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/24/google-of...

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

>companies like Google

Is it because Google's mantra is "Don't be evil", therefore they will be truthful with their records and companies not employing such a mantra might destroy evindence therefore can to be raided?

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by sgu999 »

personomas wrote: post #30
reaperman wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

Totally agree. This is behavior of authoritative and totalitarian governments, who demand to have so much authority and power, that they need to attack and undermine the most successfully businesses, bending the laws to do so (or creating abusive laws that give them the power to do so). France authorities also recently ransacked Nvidias office in France: https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidias-french-offices-ra...…

Governments which are still closer to being democratically elected than the C-suite of these "successful companies". I'll take the lesser of the two evils, thanks.

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by HermitX »

I believe that everyone's thoughts are influenced by the information they receive. We have some stereotypes about certain countries and peoples. But in reality, we have neither been there in person nor do we know any of the people from there. Our impressions of them are entirely imposed on us by the media, and it's truly sad that we have a negative view of them because of these impressions.

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by sgu999 »

reaperducer wrote: post #29
binkHN wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. Never knew about CNN Lite. It loads instantly like good websites should and the content is readable because ads are not flying in from all over the place. Does this work for all CNN articles?

Also good for edge case use. I use CNN Lite to read the news on my TRS-80.

> on my TRS-80.

Please tell us more!

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by realusername »

AlbertCory wrote: post #22
neom wrote: post #11

Good luck France. Remember what happened to Canada after the Meng Wanzhou situation? Wasn't great. Not saying don't enforce the laws, just... good luck.

If I happened to carry a French passport and was in China now, I'd get out immediately .

I would give the same advice for anybody with a foreign passport. The country is going downhill and there doesn't seem to be any breaks, foreigners will be the first target on the blame list.

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by Log_out_ »

lorkios wrote: post #24
reaperman wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uber_Files#Kill_switch Uber implemented a kill switch to prevent government law enforcement from accessing (potentially) incriminating or sensitive information during onsite investigations. When activated, the kill switch would effectively cut off access to Uber's data for the location being raided. Expecting companies to fully cooperate with state agencies might not always be realistic.…

Should count as admission of guilt for all alleged crimes.

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by martinsnow »

HermitX wrote: post #34

I believe that everyone's thoughts are influenced by the information they receive. We have some stereotypes about certain countries and peoples. But in reality, we have neither been there in person nor do we know any of the people from there. Our impressions of them are entirely imposed on us by the media, and it's truly sad that we have a negative view of them because of these impressions.

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Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by bobthepanda »

reaperman wrote: post #19
gmerc wrote: post #8

Just enforcing the law. Happens all the time https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/24/google-of...

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

Unannounced raids allow seizure before destruction.

You can destroy things fairly quickly. The Stasi destroyed more than a million records in less than a night. And in 2024 it takes a button click. https://www.stasi-unterlagen-archiv.de/en/archives/the-recon...

Re: Huawei's offices in France raided by financial prosecutors

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Post by Eisenstein »

mrtksn wrote: post #32
reaperman wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd to me that for companies like Google the state doesn't believe they can get what they need from simple subpoenas, but rather feel they need to forcibly seize records in person.

>companies like Google Is it because Google's mantra is "Don't be evil", therefore they will be truthful with their records and companies not employing such a mantra might destroy evindence therefore can to be raided?

They abandoned that mantra.
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