Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

Post by yencabulator » Fri, Feb 09, 2024, 3:45 PM UTC

usrusr wrote: post #148

_heimdall wrote: post #72

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

Yeah, listening in wouldn't work because you can always stack more encryption on top of the one the carrier might listen in to. But Starlink can't operate without exact knowledge of antenna locations for aiming the phased arrays (some sibling said that it can operate without GPS, but I read that as it's able to locate the antenna on its own after a crude signal handshake is done). But in a world where Musk/Starlink/s…

Post by skotobaza » Fri, Feb 09, 2024, 3:57 PM UTC

infecto wrote: post #116

itsoktocry wrote: post #73

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> he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll The sheer number of people - Americans, mostly - who consider Russia this omnipotent boogeyman is both hilarious and scary. Everything is Russian propaganda, you can't believe anything a Russian says, all Russians are evil. I mean, where does this mentality come from? It's insane. In some circles you can literally dismiss…

I have never seen Russian being describe as the ultimate boogeyman while in America but I am also realistic. Russia is after all a mob run state and makes no qualms with public assassinations. There are fairly well documented instances of their operations. I am not scared of them, look at the massive failure their military is but I also am aware that they are an outlier to world stability.

Post by throwawaymaths » Fri, Feb 09, 2024, 4:01 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #207

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> Genuinely curious where you’re getting this it's in the text. SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos. Pretty public knowledge: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/spacex-crew-dragon-launch-russi... It would be crazy for the US state department to NOT use that as some sort of opportunity.

> SpaceX is a provider for Roscosmos..would be crazy for the US state department to NOT use that as some sort of opportunity Sure. That doesn't make Musk a "major diplomatic contact," nor even a pertinent one (let alone "most major"). Also, these are NASA launches. NASA paid for them and handled the seat swap with Roscosmos [1], though there was no doubt coördination between the latter and Hawthorne. [1] https://arst…

Post by ImJamal » Fri, Feb 09, 2024, 4:13 PM UTC

sgift wrote: post #137

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Because NATO did not expand. Countries decided to join NATO. You may think this is the same with other words, but it isn't. In the first version there's only two actors in the world, who can make decisions: Russia and NATO (or rather USA, for they argue NATO is basically the USA with another name). In the second version countries are free to decide who they associate with. There wasn't some empty space that NATO move…

Post by usrusr » Fri, Feb 09, 2024, 4:16 PM UTC

sneak wrote: post #175

usrusr wrote: post #148

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Yeah, listening in wouldn't work because you can always stack more encryption on top of the one the carrier might listen in to. But Starlink can't operate without exact knowledge of antenna locations for aiming the phased arrays (some sibling said that it can operate without GPS, but I read that as it's able to locate the antenna on its own after a crude signal handshake is done). But in a world where Musk/Starlink/s…

I presume Musk necessarily has a clearance already and keeps many things secret on pain of imprisonment. Did you forget SpaceX does NRO launches all of the time? Furthermore, you aren’t allowed to have access to orbit from the USA without playing by the MIC/IC’s rules, clearance or no clearance.