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Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Something to note: I would not trust a single sentence coming from this site, knowing who is running it - he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll.

> he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll The sheer number of people - Americans, mostly - who consider Russia this omnipotent boogeyman is both hilarious and scary. Everything is Russian propaganda, you can't believe anything a Russian says, all Russians are evil. I mean, where does this mentality come from? It's insane. In some circles you can literally dismiss…

>I mean, where does this mentality come from? It's insane.

From people who studied some history, unlike you.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Previously Ukraine wanted to use Starlink in Crimea, but Musk geo-disabled them saying that Starlink is forbidden to provide business to sanctioned regions. > Musk said on the podcast that Starlink had been turned off over Crimea originally because of US sanctions on Russia. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-14/elon-musk...

They've been lobbying for access. Now it's here and suddenly accusations of supplying Russia

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #148

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

Yeah, listening in wouldn't work because you can always stack more encryption on top of the one the carrier might listen in to. But Starlink can't operate without exact knowledge of antenna locations for aiming the phased arrays (some sibling said that it can operate without GPS, but I read that as it's able to locate the antenna on its own after a crude signal handshake is done). But in a world where Musk/Starlink/s…

They're emitters though. I assume the US and Ukraine are already able to locate every emitter within minutes of them powering up.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

Do you think the American government can't already find Russian ships? America gets their ass beat consistently in unwinnable wars against guerilla armies, but in terms of identifying giant warships I think they're pretty capable.

Ass beat? More like outlasted. The Taliban went to Pakistan for 20 years until the US left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Enduring_Freedom

The US lost 2,380 and the coalition killed 72,000+.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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It was not like an interview with a typical politician, which is perhaps not a surprise, but interesting nonetheless. He was happy to acknowledge when he didn't know things, gave numerous interesting insights in conversations he has had with other world leaders - while actively avoiding betraying their trust of confidence. He also displayed a rather encyclopedic knowledge of history which I found fascinating as a his…

It doesn't sound like an interview at all, at least not a hard hitting interview with tough questions. More like a promotional tour for a new book or something.

Well it wasn't a "trap" interview, if that's what you mean. It also wasn't a "pr tour" type interview of the sort we have repeatedly given Zelensky. I think the thing it reminded me most of was the old school days of interviews with people like Larry King.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Russia is at (undeclared) war with US and NATO. Russian propaganda currently says that they started the war to counter NATO expansion.

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>Why is this "propaganda", and not fact? Why is it so hard to believe that the Russians don't want what they consider hostile parties on their borders? We would do the exact same thing.

I am from eastern Europe, we do not want to sacrifice our lives to invade Russia and loot their shit, we begged to enter in NATO to ensure our survival from Russia, from our history and large number of Russian invasion we understand better why we wanted it then some Westerners. Again we have no fucking intention to still Russian land or their toilets.

>What, in your opinion, is the reason?

I thin it is easy to understand, Putin grabbed Crimea in a genius move, the Western Europe were surprised and too dependent on Russia to do anything about it, the retards shoot down an airplane with civilians and EU did nothing.

And here all it starts, Putin got his ass kissed so hard by his minions that now he thought he can do again a genius blitz attack in Ukraine, Zelensky will run, the old people will pull out the communist flags and portraits of Putin and all will be glorious. Basically Putin was misinformed and stupid enough to think he can win in 3 days or 2 weeks whatever makes Rusky feel better.

And why would Putin want to grab land, steal crap? It is a Russian thing, they like to control, steal, invade etc. They always cry that they lost their sphere of influence in Eastern Europe and they accuse us Eastern Europeans of beeing Rusofobs and brainwashed by CIA.

The final plan was probably to grab as many territories as possible before this countries enter EU and NATO, this is why Ruzzia is supporting anti-EU groups in their neighbors to delay things so his army can invade.

When some Rusky or tanky will tell you that Ruzzia is just afraid of beeing invaded, use your brain and remember that Ruzzia has nuclear weapons so nobody will invade them, the danger for them is the diea that ex-USSR cuntries are prospering in EU and NATO, this idea makes itharder to keep the new generation under contrl so extreme measures were taken to brainwsh them.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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It's pretty cheap to call musk a pro russian. He is the one private person that helped ukraines war effort the most by providing them starlink in the first place. Is it so hard to understand that there are reasons for him to not allow the usage for deep strikes, besides him beeing on putins payroll?

Should a private individual be able to limit a sovereign nation's battle plan to defend itself from an invasion? Specifically, in the US, should a private individual or a public company be able to compete with the federal government over foreign affairs policy? (Presuming that allied war support, materiel, and rules of engagement qualify as elements of foreign affairs.) Are Elon's choices a mercantile challenge to de…

The US itself doesn't even allow ukraine to use their weapons for deep strikes.

The US intentionally did not deliver the long range version of ATACAMS.

I also think its questionable that a business person can influence a war. But you know, it was actually in favor of ukraine.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #153

If you build a global thing like this it’s gonna be damn hard to keep anyone anywhere from using it unless you hard geofence.

Ukrainians complained about geofencing. Now it's seemingly gone and they have something new to complain about

Well hey, if you sell stuff that gets used in a war you're gonna have one both sides pissed at you. Only way to avoid would be to geofence the entire region and nope out on the whole thing.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

These kind of conversations are exhausting. I for one don’t know all the details, which I think there are many. I realize it is easy to make a blanket accusation and harder to provide details. Last time I looked this up it was pretty murky. Specifically on your point I believe there was a couple things at play but maybe I am wrong. 1) did not have approval by the state department 2) blanket rule that they could be us…

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If Putin called Musk stupid, it would make Russia look bad. SpaceX is far more capable than Russia's rocket industry so for Russians to save any face, they must say Musk and SpaceX are very good at what they do.

What else would they say, "We're being beaten by idiots"?

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