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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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The point is that he's done this before in order to disadvantage Ukraine. He is quite clearly on the side of russia.

1) why is that quite clear? 2) so?

What do you mean "so"? If someone were also on the side of Adolf Hitler, would you take the same neutral position?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #67

Something to note: I would not trust a single sentence coming from this site, knowing who is running it - he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll.

> he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll The sheer number of people - Americans, mostly - who consider Russia this omnipotent boogeyman is both hilarious and scary. Everything is Russian propaganda, you can't believe anything a Russian says, all Russians are evil. I mean, where does this mentality come from? It's insane. In some circles you can literally dismiss…

Brave of you to assume I'm American. Spoilers: I'm not. And on that note, I know a thing or two.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Russia is at (undeclared) war with US and NATO. Russian propaganda currently says that they started the war to counter NATO expansion.

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Russia wants to control and annex its former vassals who in turn try to flee under the shield of NATO.

That is all there is to it.

Right now the west can send as much weapons as it wants to Ukraine to be used against Russia with impunity. If Ukraine was a member of NATO Russia would be completely safe.

But the US cant even be bothered to send an insignificant amount of aid to Ukraine, never mind an actual attack. Russia knew this very well and much of its strategy is based on this decreasing interest and support.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Starlink satellites are in a very, very low orbit - which means they "see" a fairly small patch of land. So if you're in eastern Ukraine, currently satellites #32581 and #44197 are above you, with #17994 coming soon over the horizon (numbers invented). Additionally, they have phased antenna arrays able to narrow-beam your data pretty much to you (this is very useful as you can, among other things, recycle the exact s…

>(numbers invented) all numbers are invented ;)

Or discovered

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) why is that quite clear? 2) so?

What do you mean "so"? If someone were also on the side of Adolf Hitler, would you take the same neutral position?

Well, in that case I think I'd

1) Not dilute the horrific tragedy of a century in pursuit of my histrionic agenda

2) Try and not overfit the clean simple morality of young adult fiction onto the real world

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #98

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These kind of conversations are exhausting. I for one don’t know all the details, which I think there are many. I realize it is easy to make a blanket accusation and harder to provide details. Last time I looked this up it was pretty murky. Specifically on your point I believe there was a couple things at play but maybe I am wrong. 1) did not have approval by the state department 2) blanket rule that they could be us…

> would be nice to explore the topic more than “Musk is bad” Isaacson’s Starlink claims are muddied. But Musk has tweeted Kremlin propaganda points, e.g. on its proximate nuclear red lines (which, for the record, we’ve since passed). I blame David Sacks for giving him bad advice. But whatever the reason, it’s fair to question whether this was intentional at some level.

Not to be overly defensive of musk, but musk is currently one of our most major diplomatic point of contact with Russia (SpaceX deal to send up cosmonauts to iss) so it's kind of in the US interest to ask musk to gas up putin a bit. Although I wouldn't find it hard to believe that musk is that clueless, I also have to consider that it might be a diplomatic task.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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It's pretty cheap to call musk a pro russian. He is the one private person that helped ukraines war effort the most by providing them starlink in the first place. Is it so hard to understand that there are reasons for him to not allow the usage for deep strikes, besides him beeing on putins payroll?

Should a private individual be able to limit a sovereign nation's battle plan to defend itself from an invasion? Specifically, in the US, should a private individual or a public company be able to compete with the federal government over foreign affairs policy? (Presuming that allied war support, materiel, and rules of engagement qualify as elements of foreign affairs.) Are Elon's choices a mercantile challenge to democratic decision making that dilutes the sovereign powers of the US?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#170

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

The US has reconnaissance satellite data that it provides to the Ukrainians. Each side knows where each other's troops are. I don't know where this report is getting its facts, but the Ukranians haven't captured any significant territory in months, so it's unlikely their troops are seeing 'star link' unless Russians are hauling terminals to the front trenches, which seems quite unlikely.

On the flip side, we know from the article and elsewhere the Ukrainians are using the terminals for military coordination, and command posts have been struck which utilize star link.

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