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Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #11

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> Why doesn't Musk's Company just turn off the Starlink panels , you know operating in Russia, just like he did over Crimea? I'm also sure they can distinguish between terminals used by ukrainians and russians on a front line that probably changes daily.

Starlinks are associated with a user account. So it should be trivial to determine who is Ukrainian and who is not Ukrainian.

How so when lots of them are paid for with foreign cards?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#112
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why doesn't Musk's Company just turn off the Starlink panels , you know operating in Russia, just like he did over Crimea? I'm also sure they can distinguish between terminals used by ukrainians and russians on a front line that probably changes daily.

Does StarLink NOC have the ability to listen in on conversations?

Yes and they know where you are

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#113
post #50

Time for Ukraine to start shooting down satellites? What is the most efficient way to do it?

Instead of obtaining the enemy coordinates or sniffing their transmissions you're suggesting to waste ammo on shooting down 5000+ LEO satellites?

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #109
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also fairly doable to spoof GPS if you care to. And I'm talking about the earlier satellite communicators, not Starlink, which can indeed easily triangulate.

Problem with that in context of Starlink is the terminal needs to know its position relative to the satellite to communicate with it; spoof position, and you're likely to lose comms.

Yes. I was not talking about Starlink at all.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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post #67

Something to note: I would not trust a single sentence coming from this site, knowing who is running it - he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll.

> he is no way affiliated with the Bulgarian military or army and is likely on russia's payroll The sheer number of people - Americans, mostly - who consider Russia this omnipotent boogeyman is both hilarious and scary. Everything is Russian propaganda, you can't believe anything a Russian says, all Russians are evil. I mean, where does this mentality come from? It's insane. In some circles you can literally dismiss…

I have never seen Russian being describe as the ultimate boogeyman while in America but I am also realistic. Russia is after all a mob run state and makes no qualms with public assassinations. There are fairly well documented instances of their operations. I am not scared of them, look at the massive failure their military is but I also am aware that they are an outlier to world stability.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#117

I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone propose the possibility that allowing Russia to use Starlimk is an espionage play. I have no idea if that's actually what's going on, but if it would give Starlink information on troop locations and open a door for listening in on all Starlink-based communications, you would want the public and Russia to believe the CEO is on their side. It would also align with the fact that Russi…

Musk, Elon Musk, Agent double oh four twenty.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#118
post #8

The terminal and/or account isn't geo locked? By this news I can register a Starlink account in a country and then move to my not-supported country?

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> Oh, wait because it's full of pot head college students who don't get simple technology like Starlink and their news is from /r/antiwork

Attacking the people instead of the ideas isn't going to convince anyone that you're right.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#119
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me if I'm thinking like a TV writer since I don't have the scientific knowledge, hence the question: can GPS signals not be spoofed, if you are in possession of the device you want to trick? I.e. Couldn't they have fake GPS signals right next to a Starlink terminal that's not strong enough to have a wide-reaching effect, but enough for the terminal to believe it's somewhere it isn't and report that false loca…

I assume a working gps is necessary for good signal since orientatiin matters in starlink.

I'm going to call on Cunningham's law here... (I'm not sure if I am right or wrong but I think I'm right and hopefully someone can correct me)

I don't think starlink needs GPS as much as the starlink service is a form of GPS. The base station sees several satellites and the satellites know where they are and so the base station can triangulate where you are, and the whole system requires this precision location mechanism to work, so the 2 way communication is a form of Global Positioning without relying on external GPS data.

Perhaps the base station is also able to use GPS but the starlink communication is also able to do exactly what GPS does so "fake GPS" would do nothing to conceal the base station's location and probably make initialization hard or impossible.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

#120
post #98

Curious to see if Musk is willing to step in and disable them or if this treatment is reserved for UAF only.

These kind of conversations are exhausting. I for one don’t know all the details, which I think there are many. I realize it is easy to make a blanket accusation and harder to provide details. Last time I looked this up it was pretty murky. Specifically on your point I believe there was a couple things at play but maybe I am wrong. 1) did not have approval by the state department 2) blanket rule that they could be us…

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