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Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by cm2187 »

vardump wrote: post #54
swores wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forgive me if I'm thinking like a TV writer since I don't have the scientific knowledge, hence the question: can GPS signals not be spoofed, if you are in possession of the device you want to trick? I.e. Couldn't they have fake GPS signals right next to a Starlink terminal that's not strong enough to have a wide-reaching effect, but enough for the terminal to believe it's somewhere it isn't and report that false loca…

Spoofing a Starlink receiver's GPS is not going to be very helpful with phase-shifted array antennas. Both the satellite and the terminal need to know each other's position. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phased_array

Also you must have a fairly good idea just by knowing which satellite is being used.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by pilsetnieks »

foul wrote: post #34
DecoySalamander wrote: post #3

Curious to see if Musk is willing to step in and disable them or if this treatment is reserved for UAF only.

This is a very valid excuse for later censorship out of Ukraine, but he should instead give away their positions.

An Operation Mincemeat of our time.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by saiya-jin »

severino wrote: post #45
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that he's done this before in order to disadvantage Ukraine. He is quite clearly on the side of russia.

He is on the side of Russia but giving away for free this Starlink thing to the UAF that has proven useful for their operations. But how come the UAF are still using Starlink if it's provided by someone clearly on the side or Russia?

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Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by pilsetnieks »

severino wrote: post #45
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that he's done this before in order to disadvantage Ukraine. He is quite clearly on the side of russia.

He is on the side of Russia but giving away for free this Starlink thing to the UAF that has proven useful for their operations. But how come the UAF are still using Starlink if it's provided by someone clearly on the side or Russia?

> As of June 2023 Starlink expenses for Ukraine are covered by the US Department of Defense through a contract with SpaceX.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/pentagon-...

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by Thlom »

londons_explore wrote: post #14
a012 wrote: post #8

The terminal and/or account isn't geo locked? By this news I can register a Starlink account in a country and then move to my not-supported country?

Some plans have worldwide coverage. I believe starlink is deliberately allowing the service to work in places without licensing [1], because they want to follow the precedent of other sat-phone and sat-TV operators who just have worldwide service without getting permission from every government first. (and in many cases don't have the ability to geoblock, because the signal beam covers entire continents) [1]: https:/…

Many satcom operators geoblock their terminals in regions where they do not have license to transmit. This is trivial as both modem and hub/nms/noc will have the gps data from the equipment.

Most governments don't care enough to do anything about illegal transmitting, but some, like the Indian coast guard, has been known to board ships and write out fines and cause a ton of paper work for ships sailing with transmitting satcom equipment. And often they don't know how to determine if the equipment is transmitting or not, so it's safest for the crew to just turn it off when within Indian territorial waters even if the satcom provider automatically mutes equipment.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by ceejayoz »

z7 wrote: post #57
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that he's done this before in order to disadvantage Ukraine. He is quite clearly on the side of russia.

>He is quite clearly on the side of russia. He said he "donated $100M to Ukraine" though: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1650008972865224704

He's lied on Twitter before.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776 resulted in his having to step down as Tesla board chair and have his tweets vetted by a minder. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/elon-musk-ordered-to-ab...

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by drjeep »

South Africa won't allow Starlink unless it meets local BEE requirements. As a result several ISPs are importing and registering Starlink in neighbouring countries, allowing us to stay online during almost daily load shedding caused by our crumbling, government owned power utility Eskom.

For those of us who want to minimize our reliance on a corrupt, incompetent government Starlink is invaluable as it allows us to go completely off-grid. Power and water is one thing, but without Starlink our mobile and fibre networks can still go down when the backup batteries inevitably run out.

Where there's demand, the market will find a way.

Re: Russian troops use Starlink licensed and imported from Dubai

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Post by inemesitaffia »

weatherlight wrote: post #7
nottorp wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the precogs employed by Starlink can predict which terminals sold in other countries will be "illegally" moved to Russia and stop the transaction before it happens. So yes, it's all Starlink's fault. I'm also sure they can distinguish between terminals used by ukrainians and russians on a front line that probably changes daily. Again, it's their fault. Musk can be blamed for a lot of things, but for this, no…

Why doesn't Musk's Company just turn off the Starlink panels , you know operating in Russia, just like he did over Crimea?

This equipment operates where Ukrainians operate theirs
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