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Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by cqqxo4zV46cp »

t0ps0il wrote: post #181
neurostimulant wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they should've named it something else to avoid confusion, especially if it doesn't have the same behavior as unix sudo. If it has different arguments and features, imagine the confusion of unsuspecting users searching how to use sudo in the future.

> imagine the confusion of unsuspecting users searching how to use sudo in the future. Linux users can experience this now by using sed on macOS

People can experience confusion on any operating system by using sed :)

Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by CrendKing »

neurostimulant wrote: post #78
zadjii wrote: post #2

Yep, it's really happening. Sudo is coming to Windows. It's obviously not just a fork of the linux sudo - there's enough that's different about the permissions structure between OS's that just a straight port wouldn't make sense. But the dream of being able to run commands as admin, in the same terminal window - that's the experience we're finally bringing to users. I've been working on this for the last few months n…

I think they should've named it something else to avoid confusion, especially if it doesn't have the same behavior as unix sudo. If it has different arguments and features, imagine the confusion of unsuspecting users searching how to use sudo in the future.

I disagree. Although this "Sudo for Windows" is not a one-to-one port from Linux, it does the same function which is to elevate a unprivileged command. Imagine if they announce "Introducing Dosu for Windows", you won't know what the hell that is without reading at least the first paragraph.

Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by cqqxo4zV46cp »

blibble wrote: post #129
neurostimulant wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they should've named it something else to avoid confusion, especially if it doesn't have the same behavior as unix sudo. If it has different arguments and features, imagine the confusion of unsuspecting users searching how to use sudo in the future.

that's the standard microsoft way embrace (copy sudo), extend (add incompatible options), extinguish

This really goes to show that no matter how legitimate a viewpoint (Microsoft is into EEE), there are always people looking to pretty unintelligently bandwagon.

Yes, we know. Internet Explorer, yada yada. Beyond the ridiculousness of the notion of sudo specifically being a target for MS, the notion that MS, or any company of its size, is THAT single-minded, is absurd.

Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by yellowapple »

c-hendricks wrote: post #150
skeaker wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? If it's the TPM requirement, Rufus can whip up a Win11 installer that bypasses that in like a minute.

Ventoy will also help them, there's absolutely something they could do.

You can also boot the normal installer, hit Shift+F10, run regedit, and set HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig\BypassTPMCheck to 1.

Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by nightowl_games »

israrkhan wrote: post #146

When I was at Microsoft we did not use to consider UAC as a security boundary, since there were ways to bypass it. (I used to work on windows kernel security). I wonder how security team let this feature get shipped. Or perhaps now they consider UAC as a security boundary.

Whats the purpose of UAC then?

Re: Sudo for Windows

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Post by withinrafael »

israrkhan wrote: post #146

When I was at Microsoft we did not use to consider UAC as a security boundary, since there were ways to bypass it. (I used to work on windows kernel security). I wonder how security team let this feature get shipped. Or perhaps now they consider UAC as a security boundary.

UAC still isn't a security boundary, but rather a defense-in-depth measure.
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