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Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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This test seems to control your trajectory in Korean society to a very high degree, which seems like overkill in my view, because a test can only be so reflective of real-life skills. I have a family member who did very well on the test and got into Seoul National University, which is reputed to be the best university in Korea. According to them, their IQ is "only" 120-130, but they have very good memory, and are abl…

Standardized testing does not aim to be a perfect evaluation, it aims to be a good enough evaluation that can be made highly resistant to corruption/bribery relative to its qualitative alternatives.

They could divide it into 5-10 different test, administered over the course of several years. Anything but what they are doing now, which sounds like it was custom designed to encourage drug abuse and suicide.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Back in the days before teh interwebz were invented...

What if the gov't could shut off political advertising on TV for (say) 48 hours before any national election ? Candidates fall back on print(ed) media and radio. This would cut off many problems (imho).

Opportunity missed. And, too late now.

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Some countries including my home country Poland impose a ban on political agitation on the election day. It means that no political content may be published on that day, but whatever has been published before that is allowed to stay. This is an old law which predates the Internet, so anything from social media posts to hanging up election posters is liable to be prosecuted and the authorities frequently do so. It's l…

We have similar restrictions in the UK. In the weeks before an election, government ministers and civil servants are not allowed to announce new policies or spending. On polling day, broadcast media cannot report on political matters or speculate about the outcome of the election. We also have extremely strict limits on campaign finance. https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn05... https://edition.…

Famously the BBC shows pictures of dogs at polling stations on election day so it's not political.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-61333251

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Pakistan's neighbor, India, has also been shutting off the internet quite a bit. 84 times in 2022: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/25/a-tool-of-poli... And Punjab had its internet severely restricted last March: - https://www.wired.com/story/india-activist-manhunt-sikh-acti... - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/punjab-interne... (I post this as someone who loves the subcontinent.)

Read the article and comment is misleading.

It happened in very very few cities and for times when riots were being incited.

On other hand, Pakistan is all country internet washout and that multiple days in same week. Number is more than 100 in 365 days.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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Pakistan's neighbor, India, has also been shutting off the internet quite a bit. 84 times in 2022: - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/25/a-tool-of-poli... And Punjab had its internet severely restricted last March: - https://www.wired.com/story/india-activist-manhunt-sikh-acti... - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/21/punjab-interne... (I post this as someone who loves the subcontinent.)

Read the article and comment is misleading. It happened in very very few cities and for times when riots were being incited. On other hand, Pakistan is all country internet washout and that multiple days in same week. Number is more than 100 in 365 days.

> It happened in very very few cities and for times when riots were being incited.

I mean, it's still bad. Not as bad as Pakistan, but still.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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IN Pakistan army decides and is the real ruler. Elections are only a face to appear as a democratic sate. In fact Pakistan elite (including army higher ranks) just is there to milk the country and build estates outside (West/UAE/etc).

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Your point being?..

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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post #80

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This test seems to control your trajectory in Korean society to a very high degree, which seems like overkill in my view, because a test can only be so reflective of real-life skills. I have a family member who did very well on the test and got into Seoul National University, which is reputed to be the best university in Korea. According to them, their IQ is "only" 120-130, but they have very good memory, and are abl…

Standardized testing does not aim to be a perfect evaluation, it aims to be a good enough evaluation that can be made highly resistant to corruption/bribery relative to its qualitative alternatives.

This is not a criticism on standardized testing per se. But the methodology could use a serious upgrade in the 21st century.

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> just in Kashmir where India cuts off all internet as a means of control over the population Just for perspective, the government would likely claim that there have been multiple violent/deadly attacks over years/decades, often against the Indian army. I am not going to comment on anything as to who is right or wrong beyond this because I barely know enough about the whole situation. All I know is that it is too com…

If I am wrong I will be happy to correct my comment. Unfortunately a downvote does not provide much information.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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I think looking at actions around elections in Pakistan through a western lens can lead to false conclusions easily. Let me try and explain through an analogy. Suppose a US political party (A) decided it wanted to win the US elections no matter what. And it had enough clout, "campaign contributions", among the various government agencies (courts, police, FBI) to make it happen. But it just didn't have the votes to ma…

Hmm, I tried to follow but that seemed a little elaborate. I think if someone tried to pull-off what you described (declaring a candidate disqualified within a week of an election) you'd have civil unrest or worse on your hands regardless any information flows.

Not if you can't have civil unrest. This has been happening in Russia for like every election cycle, and people do try to protest, but those protests are being quickly suppressed, each year more and more violently.
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