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How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by incanus77 »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #213
incanus77 wrote: post #170

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I’m not sure I’ve ever understood this take. I think Apple has always been like this (one-button mouse, B&W display, proprietary keyboard plug, dropping the floppy, adopting USB, adopting FireWire, making the original iPod only function as a FireWire hard drive on Windows, etc.) But, like any product maker, the choice of whether you buy it or not is up to you. If you don’t like the whole package, find another option?…

I mean... I assume that the person you're replying to doesn't buy Apple products. I certainly don't, precisely because I hate their arrogant "we know better than you" approach to technology. But I still think it's valid to discuss it as a drawback of the company's philosophy, even if you are choosing to not be a customer.

Sure, I'm for open discussion, but I think it could be argued that it is the central underpinning of Apple's entire ethos. It's a matter of perspective whether this is an arrogant approach or a user- and productivity-friendly design philosophy. Discussing that is great.

Stating that you are forced to use or upgrade a thing, that Apple is somehow giving you something counter to what they have offered or that you have decided to pay for, or that there is some platonic ideal of hardware that Apple should be pursuing is the take that puzzles me. Just... choose another piece of hardware.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by at_a_remove »

miles wrote: post #240
at_a_remove wrote: post #222

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This question seems a little dumb, perhaps less so in terms of our DRM world: by "transfer" does that mean move or copy ? Because we're hoping to copy, not move.

The files are copied to the Mac or PC rather than moved; the originals on the iOS device remain there.

Whew, thank you!

I should probably get a similar device just to practice. This is an odd little operation I've been called upon to perform.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by sunshowers »

pmontra wrote: post #250
sunshowers wrote: post #210

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Just the other day, I discovered a rather incredible ambient/drone album using a nonstandard tuning [1] via Spotify's Discover Weekly, and excitedly pinged all my art-music-liking friends about it. [1] Trances by Jules Reidy: https://juliareidy.bandcamp.com/album/trances

I looked for it on YouTube (via Invidious) and found it. Not my kind of music but that's not the point. The point is that if somebody likes to keep a copy of some songs discovered during a day of autoplaying through YouTube, downloading them is very easy for anybody that wants to. Maybe it's easy to do it also from Spotify but I don't use it so I have no idea.

I'm not actually sure how to do that on Spotify. But for albums I like, especially lesser-known artists making music of various kinds (I tend to lean heavily towards electronic music broadly described as "experimental"), I generally just buy them on Bandcamp and put a copy on my NAS.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by jamesrr39 »

bhauer wrote: post #232

I was briefly excited to hear they had separated media synchronization from the atrocity of iTunes. I just experimented with the "Apple Devices App" for PC. Unfortunately, the experience has been poor, which is what I should have anticipated given Apple's track record for PC software. First, the linked documentation provides no information about where to get the Apple Devices App. It turns out, it's only available fr…

> If Android weren't so awful

Just curious, what is it that people don't like about Android?

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by sillywalk »

pier25 wrote: post #16
missjellyfish wrote: post #15

I like how they fail to mention that the Apple Music App on Windows is hot garbage riddled with bugs. A few weeks ago they broke reordering of upcoming songs, the "play next" feature and I don't know what else. I have submitted bug reports with exact steps, reproducible on at least two accounts on five different conmputers. Haven't heared back, doubt I'll ever will. Anyone can recommend a streaming service that isn't…

The Apple Music app on macOS is also hot garage.

It's definitely one of the worst apps I've ever used in a long time. Finder is another POS.

Slow. The main "Listen Now Screen" is slow. It's an un-cached webview or something, that should be instantaneous.

The "Search area" is on the scrolling side bar on the left, and the toggle for searching between Apple Music and just your own library is on the right. It's not in the toolbar at the top where it should be and where it is on damn near every other macos app.

The lyrics can't expand to bigger, unless you switch to fullscreen mode, and then they're often unreadable because of the background colours.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by 0x457 »

TrickyRick wrote: post #40
rpgbr wrote: post #36

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Except that the apps that replaced iTunes are all awful (at least on macOS).

To be fair iTunes wasn't that great either, it was mostly a necessity to use iPhone (Update etc). Personally I haven't used any of these apps since it became possible to perform backups and updates without a computer.

nah, iTunes was wonderful when I maintained my own music collection.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by crazygringo »

refulgentis wrote: post #200
crazygringo wrote: post #180

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> The foraging made it a hobby and intellectually stimulating Funny, I get a far superior foraging experience exploring radio stations based on obscure artists and other people's playlists. I don't understand how the friction of having to build programming tools made your music experience better. And I truly don't understand how making things easier leads to you losing touch with music. Maybe it's more just a functio…

I checked in with the poster, they got oddly upset, shook their head and started mumbling under the breath: "no, _DVDs_, handbrake. the programming was for iTunes movies ". Then they spoke more clearly: "no, my lifestyle hasn't changed, and no I won't prove it, even if I wanted to, I don't understand the idea of strangers telling me my lifestyle changed and that's why I don't read Pitchfork anymore"

Ha! Thanks for the laugh. Now these are the comments I come to HN for... :)

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by asciimov »

jamesrr39 wrote: post #254
bhauer wrote: post #232

I was briefly excited to hear they had separated media synchronization from the atrocity of iTunes. I just experimented with the "Apple Devices App" for PC. Unfortunately, the experience has been poor, which is what I should have anticipated given Apple's track record for PC software. First, the linked documentation provides no information about where to get the Apple Devices App. It turns out, it's only available fr…

> If Android weren't so awful Just curious, what is it that people don't like about Android?

Updates. No guarantee that you will get the next OS update even on a brand new phone. Which stinks when financial apps require you be on the latest OS.

Yes, this happened to me a decade ago on 2 different Android devices. Since then I've moved my family and extended family to iOS and my ongoing tech support is dramatically reduced.

Re: How iTunes Is Changing on PC

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Post by ripdog »

asciimov wrote: post #258
jamesrr39 wrote: post #254

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> If Android weren't so awful Just curious, what is it that people don't like about Android?

Updates. No guarantee that you will get the next OS update even on a brand new phone. Which stinks when financial apps require you be on the latest OS. Yes, this happened to me a decade ago on 2 different Android devices. Since then I've moved my family and extended family to iOS and my ongoing tech support is dramatically reduced.

Just buy Samsung or pixel. 7 years of updates guaranteed.
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