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A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Post by jwells89 »

bitvoid wrote: post #13
LordDragonfang wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the latter is a fork of the former's core components.

It was forked over 10 years ago now. I doubt their shared past is even recognizable now.

There were substantial differences even from day one. As I recall one of the differences of opinion that was a driving cause of the fork was the multiprocess model; WebKit team wanted that to be part of the framework, letting any WebKit-embedding app get it for “free”, whereas the Blink team wanted it to be part of Chromium with non-Chromium users of Blink needing to bring their own multiprocess.

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Post by politelemon »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #17

I and every single other webdev I've known from the early aughts would immediately offer to buy this person a beer upon hearing this story in person. Those claiming that safari is the new chrome just don't understand how bad IE was at the time.

> Those claiming that safari is the new chrome just don't understand how bad IE was at the time.

I suffered in the IE6 times, understood how bad it is, but still claim otherwise; when we're saying that Safari is the new IE/the new Chrome, it's with good reason. We've recognized that a piece of history is repeating itself, and it's pretty sad that it gets handwaved away or dismissed, just because people happen to have bought into its ecosystem.

Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Post by johnz »

I worked on the front end of CollegeHumor.com at this time and spent a lot of working hours bashing my head against the wall debugging for IE6 (and even IE5).

I don’t remember the decision/approval process that happening internally but we put up a similar banner very shortly after YouTube added theirs. We continued supporting IE6 for some time but started prioritizing it less and less.

Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Post by scrlk »

On a tangent: the screenshot of the deprecation banner brings back memories of a time when the internet still felt relatively free, before the rise and dominance of mega platforms in the 2010s.

I still mourn the loss of community forums that were replaced by reddit, or worse, Discord. So many hours spent on various phpBB/vBulletin etc. forums. :^)

Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Post by breathen »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #5
cogman10 wrote: post #4

One of the best things that's happened to the web is all browsers moving over to an evergreen model of distribution. IE was such a cancer on the internet, everyone in the bad old days programmed to the lowest common denominator (IE6, 7, or 8). Even while brand new features and standards were widely adopted by everyone else. One of the worst things that's happened is nearly everyone converging on using webkit to rende…

> One of the worst things that's happened is nearly everyone converging on using webkit to render everything. Feels like slowly stepping backwards into the days when everyone writes for webkit rather than a more open internet. WebKit and Blink are separate engines.

...sort of...

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Post by bombcar »

cogman10 wrote: post #4

One of the best things that's happened to the web is all browsers moving over to an evergreen model of distribution. IE was such a cancer on the internet, everyone in the bad old days programmed to the lowest common denominator (IE6, 7, or 8). Even while brand new features and standards were widely adopted by everyone else. One of the worst things that's happened is nearly everyone converging on using webkit to rende…

The real dichotomy is Blink (Chrome/Android) vs Webkit (Apple/iPhone).

Everyone tests everything on iPhone and Chrome.

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Post by ssl-3 »

Octoth0rpe wrote: post #17

I and every single other webdev I've known from the early aughts would immediately offer to buy this person a beer upon hearing this story in person. Those claiming that safari is the new chrome just don't understand how bad IE was at the time.

It's still bad. The awful continues for end-users.

Just this afternoon, I witnessed one elder tech teaching another elder tech how to enable IE mode on Windows 11 because that is the only way to get a particular hardware-based NVR to be viewable.

The NVR has 2023 firmware.

Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Post by dang »

Related:

A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210439 - Nov 2023 (1 comment)

A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 (2019) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28725293 - Oct 2021 (80 comments)

A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 at YouTube - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28655890 - Sept 2021 (2 comments)

A Conspiracy to Kill IE6 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19798678 - May 2019 (363 comments)

Re: A conspiracy to kill IE6 (2019)

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Octoth0rpe wrote: post #17

I and every single other webdev I've known from the early aughts would immediately offer to buy this person a beer upon hearing this story in person. Those claiming that safari is the new chrome just don't understand how bad IE was at the time.

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