Interesting and disturbing I set up 2 factor with a token in Authy for Paypal a few years back and I never click the 'leave me logged in' link to prevent anything at all like this.
How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
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Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#42How did the scammer close the ticket? Zero day on Paypal? Unlikely for a lowly FB scammer to have this. SMS hijack? Unlikely the OP would have noticed. Phishing? Maybe… could have been a sophisticated phishing attack. Maybe using those fake package delivery SMS messages.
They may have a person on the inside.
Whats disturbing is Paypal didnt investigate the issue at all.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got scammed from a FB advert selling clothing, turned out the company is a scam and sends nothing, FB have allowed them to still advertise for months still.
I get downvoted for saying this every time I post it here, but a huge number of facebook adverts are scams of various sorts. Some are as you say - you order something and never receive it. Straight up Some are fast fashion companies which get spun up quickly with slick ads and websites, which are somehow "going out of business" even though they were registered less than 2 months ago. Some are kickstarters for product…
The last of those is at least a value-added service for some people.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#44Fake tracking numbers are a common occurrence in scams now. Somehow the scammers are getting access to a database of real time legitimate tracking numbers, they wait until there’s a shipment in their database going to the same city as the buyer, and then use that tracking number to claim that they shipped the package. Maybe they’re paying a real merchant for access to their shipping database? Or are UPS tracking numb…
I think the idea is the scammer just picks a random business in the area then ships them an empty box with a real tracking number.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I got scammed from a FB advert selling clothing, turned out the company is a scam and sends nothing, FB have allowed them to still advertise for months still.
I get downvoted for saying this every time I post it here, but a huge number of facebook adverts are scams of various sorts. Some are as you say - you order something and never receive it. Straight up Some are fast fashion companies which get spun up quickly with slick ads and websites, which are somehow "going out of business" even though they were registered less than 2 months ago. Some are kickstarters for product…
yes, they fit this pattern exactly. I only discovered this issue after being scammed. There are hundreds of people for example who got scammed by a company advertising dolphin blankets, as described by reddit users who where victims of it, and the adverts and company have still not been taken down by FB.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Bingo. It's about as obvious as the people who are surprised when their car gets broken into and then they tell you that their backpack was visible.
Believe it or not, in most of the USA you can leave a backpack visible in your car and it won't get broken into. It's only some shithole cities where this is a serious problem. So, it's unsurprising that many people would be surprised by that particular type of crime. Online marketplace scams are prevalent pretty much everywhere because the scammers can use fake accounts and are often in another country.
If so, the idea you can safely leave stuff in a car is the triumph of anecdotes over data.
Long ago when starting a software & network company, I got a commercial insurance policy on the computer equipment. It covered everything, suprisingly including the usual exceptions such as war, terrorism, Acts Of God, lightning, fire, etc.
But, there was ONE thing it did not cover:
"Theft from an unattended motor vehicle".
I took the hint and to this day never leave anything in a parked car, and never had anything stolen, and I have friends who didn't follow it and have been robbed that way, sometimes literally in The actuaries have data and know some things ordinary people don't.
When you get that info, listen.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#47There's a lovely line in the original BitCoin paper which says: > Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. The word "easily" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there! Escrow is a difficult problem to solve. There is no infallible smart-contract which can protect both buyers and sellers.…
Cryptocurrency is kind of the opposite if escrow. Especially the complex stuff like smart contracts. It is more “technical wizard who hacks it takes all!” with zero recourse.
Code is law bud. Wait, not the actual code, the code I meant to write without a bug that could be exploited.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#48When I do FB marketplace I go cash and in-person. It lets you assess the quality of whatever you're buying.
This is the way. Does FB Marketplace even have any sort of reputation system? Or are you banking entirely on the age of the account? I'm a heavy Facebook user, but I avoid FB Marketplace like the plague. Just seems like a great place to get scammed.
It's a great place to get goods cheap. Stolen goods, that is.
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#49There's a lovely line in the original BitCoin paper which says: > Transactions that are computationally impractical to reverse would protect sellers from fraud, and routine escrow mechanisms could easily be implemented to protect buyers. The word "easily" is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there! Escrow is a difficult problem to solve. There is no infallible smart-contract which can protect both buyers and sellers.…
There have been routine escrow mechanisms on bitcoin for 10 years? Its a very lucrative side business to operate those? They involve humans, they also involve multisignature accounts and smart contracts just like the white paper inspired or imagined 15 years ago. Its been one of the biggest boons for crypto native commerce, even when automated by the marketplace when the local government doesnt like a website they no…
>There have been routine escrow mechanisms on bitcoin for 10 years?
Its a very lucrative side business to operate those?
Are those questions?
Re: How I got scammed on Facebook Marketplace (2023)
#50When I do FB marketplace I go cash and in-person. It lets you assess the quality of whatever you're buying.
That limits you to buying stuff locally, its a good precaution but means you can't buy anything that is only available further away. I've had good luck buying stuff so far and saved money, I certainly could have got scammed and that would suck.
>That limits you to buying stuff locally, its a good precaution but means you can't buy anything that is only available further away.
To me, that's an entirely reasonable trade-off. You sacrifice the breadth of the market available to you in exchange for greatly reducing your attack surface. You'll easily filter out the legions of machine-assisted international scammers if you require transactions to be in-person with cash.