Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
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Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
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#2Tomi (the author of communities-dominate) is kind of like MG Siegler - he writes as a blind Nokia fan, with no hint of awareness that what he is saying has more to do with fandom than proper commentary.
In MG's case at least it is about a company that is relevant. Tomi was amusing back in 2008-10 when he would grasp at anything that "conclusively showed" how much better Nokia was than the iPhone, and later Android.
There was a period in 2009 (I think it was) when you could almost see the cognitive dissonance happening every time he wrote something.
Now, of course, he grasps at a broad conspiracy theory involving Nokia CEO Elop being somehow motivated to deliberately destroy Nokia for Microsoft.
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#3Tomi (the author of communities-dominate) is kind of like MG Siegler - he writes as a blind Nokia fan, with no hint of awareness that what he is saying has more to do with fandom than proper commentary. In MG's case at least it is about a company that is relevant. Tomi was amusing back in 2008-10 when he would grasp at anything that "conclusively showed" how much better Nokia was than the iPhone, and later Android. T…
First time I read this lunatic. I am not quite sure how reasonable his opinions are (Skype is avaible on other platforms and not hurting them), but it is entertaining. I have to look what he is writing about the iPhone 2010.
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#4my 2-cents: I actually think Nokia could be on the up. Most companies like this have a problem with their departments lacking communication, or lack guardians that ensure each aspect is unified and works properly - and Nokia may never have this; however if they stick to the platform and strive for better quality on delivery and innovation it could work out alright.
I thought Nokia were going to bite the dust, but then I remembered consumers are fickle... if Nokia release something that looks sexy, and works well, they will be back oki. As long as they keep symbian going for the low-fi robust cheap phone market (that is still at large).
Also I really appreciate the insight on Tomi from nl... thanks!
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#5No doubt is Nokia in trouble. And having followed the smartphone embryo that was Nokia 770 (with Maemo) I wonder why they were so late to really embrace this path. When they did, it was too late. What really happened in Nokia between 2005 and 2008?
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#6what a terribly written article which almost lead me to a [Certain Road to Death]
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#7Tomi (the author of communities-dominate) is kind of like MG Siegler - he writes as a blind Nokia fan, with no hint of awareness that what he is saying has more to do with fandom than proper commentary. In MG's case at least it is about a company that is relevant. Tomi was amusing back in 2008-10 when he would grasp at anything that "conclusively showed" how much better Nokia was than the iPhone, and later Android. T…
I'm aware that many dislike Elop (and there may be many good reasons), but I'm still in awe of his "burning platform" memo[1].
He lays out the horrible situation they are in: pressured from the top of the market by Android+Apple and at the low end by a huge wave of asian cell phone makers.
Compare his very clear eyed approach to the ongoing and incoherent messages coming out of RIM.
[1] - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-ra...
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#8my 2-cents: I actually think Nokia could be on the up. Most companies like this have a problem with their departments lacking communication, or lack guardians that ensure each aspect is unified and works properly - and Nokia may never have this; however if they stick to the platform and strive for better quality on delivery and innovation it could work out alright. I thought Nokia were going to bite the dust, but the…
> consumers are fickle... if Nokia release something that looks sexy,and works well, they will be back
I kind of agree with you but the Lumia 800 is a really good device on all sides but I coudln't find it in the color I wanted. Nobody cared at the shops and I was a weirdo to them for shopping a device they don't believe in..
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#9Tomi (the author of communities-dominate) is kind of like MG Siegler - he writes as a blind Nokia fan, with no hint of awareness that what he is saying has more to do with fandom than proper commentary. In MG's case at least it is about a company that is relevant. Tomi was amusing back in 2008-10 when he would grasp at anything that "conclusively showed" how much better Nokia was than the iPhone, and later Android. T…
I'm aware that many dislike Elop (and there may be many good reasons), but I'm still in awe of his "burning platform" memo[1]. He lays out the horrible situation they are in: pressured from the top of the market by Android+Apple and at the low end by a huge wave of asian cell phone makers. Compare his very clear eyed approach to the ongoing and incoherent messages coming out of RIM. [1] - http://www.engadget.com/2011…
Having followed Tomi, and judged by myself, Elop's memo was a killing coup on Nokia, rather than a saving hand. S Elop could not manage properly a transition to a new platform/s and his main decision to switch to Microsoft's again and again unproven/failed platform can be judged ridiculous by a 10 years old child, even, namely Ms platform was sunk already multiple times (here speaks a Windows developer, aka me), HTC/LG/Samsung were already producing the phones, MS's stragegic misalignment with Nokia etc etc etc.
Re: Nokia Shareholder Meeting - That the Future is Far Worse than we Thought
#10Tomi (the author of communities-dominate) is kind of like MG Siegler - he writes as a blind Nokia fan, with no hint of awareness that what he is saying has more to do with fandom than proper commentary. In MG's case at least it is about a company that is relevant. Tomi was amusing back in 2008-10 when he would grasp at anything that "conclusively showed" how much better Nokia was than the iPhone, and later Android. T…
in 2008 nokia was a far superior phone. in europe anyway. they really seem to have had no impact in the usa. my nokias back then had nice useable keyboards, decent cameras that shot video, cameras with flashes. been able to write code on the os in python, and incredible battery life. a good selection of apps.
but phones they made in 2008 suggested problems to me (only supporting 8gb memory, bad design decisions for connectors) and by early-mid 2009 they had caused enough people to ditch nokia for android that the writing was on the wall.
i bought a iphone 3g on prepay and it was meh till ios 3 came along. the people who asked about the iphone i could show them the device and even loan it to them. after using it for a few days none of them wanted it at 1/3 of it's price. battery life was appalling after using nokias till that point. many hated the touchscreen for typing sms as it was slower and less accurate. accidently tapping the weather or any other internet app caused the device to suck data costing money on the prepay device.
so when the 3gs came out and apple blocked googles voip app i bought an android device. have been on android since. but i still have an ancient nokia e61 as emergency backup. last used a few weeks ago when in hospital and got seperated from my chargers. used the e61 which had last been charged last year and had been switched off since then for 3 days no problem.