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How to hire low experience, high potential people

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Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#81
post #20

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Six of one, half dozen of the other.

Sure, if what you want is a toxic team.

It's a job interview not a deposition. Isn't everybody just telling a good story to get the job?

I will say that my general opinion is that people being interviewed should be accurate with the truth but can be flexible on the facts.

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#82
post #5

> Most smart people are actually terrible at having the drive/follow through to take things to completion. They’ll usually want to give up at the first sign of failure or slowness. You can also hire that really "smart" person from a large co to a startup and watch them be extremely successful in a low-friction environment for crossing the finish line.

What makes you think a startup is a low-friction environment rather than a different kind of high-friction environment where the corporate person could be absolutely miserable and unprepared for execution with resource constraints?

It's the difference between being blocked by a wall (with 'no trespassing' sign) and being blocked by a muddy field. Some people find the former more stressful; some the latter.

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#83

> “Tell me about you. If your life was a book, give me the chapter titles from your birth till now.” Once you’ve gotten the overview, dive into each “chapter” and plumb the depths for their real stories. Go back to their childhood! I learn a lot about their grit and commitment to excellence from their basketball obsession or maybe their experience caring for a dying parent. I don't think I'd be comfortable sharing th…

Agree completely. This interview approach is going to lead to terrible biases coming to the forefront that have nothing to do with job performance.

It also sounds like an HR nightmare in some states here in the US.

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#85
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends on the role you're hiring for. I suspect a lot of comments in this thread, echoing your sentiment, will be written from the perspective of sharp-end-of-the-stick engineers for whom the idea of working on ambiguous organizational problems is an abstract concept, far from their day to day. Not saying that's you per se, but this is HN after all. This crowd loves for things to be clear-cut, especially when the…

It's unclear to me how "non-engineering types" can make use of stories about e.g. "caring for a dying parent" in the context of a job interview. I mean, can anyone (layperson or not) actually "psychologically evaluate" someone based on anecdotes from their life? I also worry that this stuff can be gamed. If an applicant gains an advantage by telling a story about how he "cared for his dying aunt while finishing a deg…

I don't care about the details the questions are meant to generate discussions. We can have you do stupid personality quiz instead. There are no bad answers to Myers Briggs. The test is stupid but also just a jumping point to dig into someone's personality

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#87
post #46

> “Tell me about you. If your life was a book, give me the chapter titles from your birth till now.” Once you’ve gotten the overview, dive into each “chapter” and plumb the depths for their real stories. Go back to their childhood! I learn a lot about their grit and commitment to excellence from their basketball obsession or maybe their experience caring for a dying parent. I don't think I'd be comfortable sharing th…

I'd quit such an interview. Those questions are going over the boundaries of a strictly professional relationship. The thing with low-experience, high-potentials is that they may be bit more insecure than seniors and therefore might think that such questions are normal which they are not.

I couldn't agree more. I am not sure if there is a name for the tactic but I had two girl friends that probed like that early on in our relationships and both times it turned out to bite me during and after our relationships. It is almost a cult-like tactic to get into someone's head.

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#88
> “Tell me about you. If your life was a book, give me the chapter titles from your birth till now.” Once you’ve gotten the overview, dive into each “chapter” and plumb the depths for their real stories. Go back to their childhood! I learn a lot about their grit and commitment to excellence from their basketball obsession or maybe their experience caring for a dying parent.

God damn that sounds exhausting. How about let's skip to the current chapter, titled I'm Good At Computers And I Want A Job.

Re: How to hire low experience, high potential people

#90
post #41

People's intuitions around hiring aren't Bayesian enough. I think a good process reduces down to something like: - Are they smart? (understands quickly + communicates effectively) - Are they cool? (won't put poison in the keurig + pleasant to be around) - Are they high energy? (initiative + action bias) - Do they have the experience needed to be successful in the role? Those are pretty strong priors for success. If y…

> adding more boxes tends to index towards box-checkers who grew up wealthy.

Yeah, but that's the point. Those who come from wealth bring connections. Connections are what make or break a business. A mediocre worker with rich parents is far more beneficial to the business than a standout worker that came from the slums.

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