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Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Public sector IT in Denmark has been in a weird tug of war between those eager to sell out our data to American companies and those who naively think Ubuntu and LibreOffice can realistically replace the public sector's dependency on Microsoft. We need to keep our data in Denmark and become less dependent on American companies (and especially Microsoft/Google). But the change needs to be led by IT professionals who ca…

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Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

Hey, Tech was banned at my boarding school :-).

No electronics. TV, Radio...

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What did you think it said?

It says that there's no legal ground for troubleshooting/measuring data to be shared with Google: > The conclusion of the Danish Data Protection Authority's decision is that there is authority to pass on the students' information for the purpose of providing the services, improving the security and reliability of the services, communication with e.g. the municipalities and compliance with legal obligations. > At the…

Fair enough, that is a distinction worth making. A good one in fact. Bceuase now Google may be forced to unlock or otherwise not encumber Chrombeook hardware.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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post #10

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

Same way anyone over 30 did.

Although I say that knowing my grades in school wouldn't have been trash if I'd been able to use a computer and not get discriminated for my handwriting.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who went to a high school (Italy) where in the first two years each student had a laptop they could use in the classroom, I agree that having a computer per student is a bad idea. In my experience, what ended up happening was that pupils who already knew their way around a computer didn't really get any extra benefit from using cmputers in the classroom and those who didn't like using computers hated it ev…

> Most importantly though, they were a HUGE distraction. Any time the lesson got boring because the teacher wasn't good or just not good at getting the kids engaged in the lesson (which happened quite often sadly, but that is another discussion) we would all just start playing on the computers. Some kids came to school just to play videogames and barely learned anything. I would not fault computers here. At my school…

It's not quite the same. I, a responsible adult, find myself fiddling with my phone when attending talks, even when I'm supposedly interested in the talk. Once I start, I missed the beginning and don't understand the rest of the talk even if I try to focus later. The level of temptation is quite different.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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> For activist Graugaard, the decision comes as a relief. He began his crusade against Chromebooks in school in his home town Elsinor over four years ago. While this week's report makes no reference to Jesper's initiatives, it is clear that this injunction could not have been issued without his tireless and sometimes solitary activism.

Sounds like some crazy person just screwed up education for everyone.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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This article advocates for Linux (Chromebook is already Linux) on refurbished hardware (a random mix of old laptops in a large-scale deployment lol) and a laundry list of other "technology solutions" which would be, obviously, impossible for a school system to smoothly maintain or even deploy. I'm not sure privacydad has ever deployed or maintained an IT department. A school system is very complex. For what they offe…

>> A school system is very complex.

But does it need to be?

School private networks seem unnecessary, especially nowadays when most apps are cloud-based and don't require installation. Many modern routers support domain blacklists to prevent access to inappropriate content. What else is needed?

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

Same way anyone over 30 did. Although I say that knowing my grades in school wouldn't have been trash if I'd been able to use a computer and not get discriminated for my handwriting.

The world changes.
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