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Day Against DRM

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Re: Day Against DRM

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post #10

From 2010. Don't people look at dates before posting?

Don't Repeat Yourself, in classic UNIX fashion. They're reusing the same blog post for each year.

I don't see this linked in the news/event boxes on fsf.org, I think the person who posted this to HN used an old link -- not the FSF.

Re: Day Against DRM

#12
post #5

lol irrelevant

@skerrit_bwoy If you want to really participate in a discussion on HN you should stop trolling and present your opinion.

That's not a troll, I actually work in infotech and come from startuplandia. That's my god's honest opinion. Of course I know expressing it is going to be kicking a hornet's nest around here, but I could care less about my karma, I write for whatever small percentage of kids reading this stuff aren't yet irrevocably doomed to a life of aspergers, celibacy, and irrelevancy.

Re: Day Against DRM

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post #11
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't Repeat Yourself, in classic UNIX fashion. They're reusing the same blog post for each year.

I don't see this linked in the news/event boxes on fsf.org, I think the person who posted this to HN used an old link -- not the FSF.

I just went to the front page of fsf.org, search for "day against drm" and clicked the link. It took me here:

https://www.fsf.org/events/international-day-against-drm

Re: Day Against DRM

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I would take posts like this from the FSF more seriously if they proposed or endorsed a solution, rather than simply proposing a protest.

FSF may claim to be about "Free as in Speech, rather than Free as in Beer," but DRM straddles both of these points. Yes, we're restricted in the products that can utilize DRM files, but DRM also exists to protect ownership rights. Its a complex system, and one that can't simply be "abolished" without some suitable alternative to protects both interests.

There are lots of theories and examples of alternatives to DRM that protect the rights of both the creator and end user. I'm just disappointed that the FSF didn't propose one of these, or their own, as a viable solution. It's easy to point fingers, it's tough to propose meaningful solutions.

Re: Day Against DRM

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@skerrit_bwoy If you want to really participate in a discussion on HN you should stop trolling and present your opinion.

That's not a troll, I actually work in infotech and come from startuplandia. That's my god's honest opinion. Of course I know expressing it is going to be kicking a hornet's nest around here, but I could care less about my karma, I write for whatever small percentage of kids reading this stuff aren't yet irrevocably doomed to a life of aspergers, celibacy, and irrelevancy.

Actually, you seem to exist solely to troll. Guessing you won't be around for very long.

Re: Day Against DRM

#16
Recently I've been researching autonomous cars, and I haven't explored this idea much, but could DRM have a role in preventing users from modifying the software that drives their car, or other life-and-death scenarios?

Like I said, it's just an inkling at this point, any thoughts?

Re: Day Against DRM

#17
post #6

This press release sounds like a declaration of war on content creators. You won't kill DRM by tut-tutting it. You kill DRM by changing the minds of content creators who use it. You won't do that by waging a war on them. What does one do to participate in this anyway? The press release wasn't clear.

While I don't disagree with the point, we are actually not declaring war on content creators, but on content rights-holders. I'm just guessing, but I would suppose that the majority of cases in which DRM was applied to a product was done so by a middle-man, e.g., Sony Records, not Lady Gaga.

Showing more of my ignorance on the subject, does anyone know if the content-producers are even consulted on whether or not their copyrighted works get DRM or not?

Re: Day Against DRM

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post #14

I would take posts like this from the FSF more seriously if they proposed or endorsed a solution, rather than simply proposing a protest. FSF may claim to be about "Free as in Speech, rather than Free as in Beer," but DRM straddles both of these points. Yes, we're restricted in the products that can utilize DRM files, but DRM also exists to protect ownership rights. Its a complex system, and one that can't simply be…

Very true, especially as the FSF has been so instrumental in creating and encouraging the creation of free software. While the FSF have "been against" non free software they have at least helped provide the alternative. In the case of DRM, not so much.

Re: Day Against DRM

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post #14

I would take posts like this from the FSF more seriously if they proposed or endorsed a solution, rather than simply proposing a protest. FSF may claim to be about "Free as in Speech, rather than Free as in Beer," but DRM straddles both of these points. Yes, we're restricted in the products that can utilize DRM files, but DRM also exists to protect ownership rights. Its a complex system, and one that can't simply be…

Like what meaningful solution? Pre-digital DRM was essentially the difficulty of copying, and that is no longer "difficult", and you can't undo that because DRM on media people care about will be broken.

Re: Day Against DRM

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post #14

I would take posts like this from the FSF more seriously if they proposed or endorsed a solution, rather than simply proposing a protest. FSF may claim to be about "Free as in Speech, rather than Free as in Beer," but DRM straddles both of these points. Yes, we're restricted in the products that can utilize DRM files, but DRM also exists to protect ownership rights. Its a complex system, and one that can't simply be…

    [DRM] can't simply be "abolished" without some suitable
    alternative to protects both interests.
It can be and in the music industry largely has been. iTunes has no DRM. Amazon's mp3 store has no DRM. Bandcamp has no DRM.

The solution is getting rid of DRM. DRM does not prevent people intent on pirating their media from doing whatever they want. It hurts legitimate users.

The existence of DRM has nothing to do with preserving the freedom of content creators. Your presentation of it as something that does is naive. It exists to protect the interests and power of media publishers. The publishers--not the creators--are the ones making the choices about DRM. Its use is an attempt to prop up outdated business models, because that's easier--and, in the short term, safer--than change.

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