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Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

throwaway71271 wrote: post #7

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

> Schools + laptops

Are there any believable success story for this from involved people (= students+teachers+parents)?

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by blackhaz »

lukan wrote: post #10
throwaway71271 wrote: post #7

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

We didn't have any tech in school and yet we've turned out just fine, now sitting here and typing this on HN. I'm all for banning tech from schools. Allowing Google to enter the school system has been a crime against our children.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by cebert »

lukan wrote: post #10
throwaway71271 wrote: post #7

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

It appears schools are having a difficult enough time learning basic skills like reading, writing, comprehension, and basic math. There’s no reason they need the distraction of laptops in the classroom.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by lakpan »

blackhaz wrote: post #13
lukan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

We didn't have any tech in school and yet we've turned out just fine, now sitting here and typing this on HN. I'm all for banning tech from schools. Allowing Google to enter the school system has been a crime against our children.

> crime against our children.

Sounds a bit hyperbolic. How are kids being hurt by Google specifically?

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by everdrive »

lukan wrote: post #10
throwaway71271 wrote: post #7

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

It doesn't particularly seem like kids are learning about computers by using computers in school. They just have a constant distraction in front of them.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by draugadrotten »

lukan wrote: post #10
throwaway71271 wrote: post #7

Schools+laptops is absolutely crazy. The amount of incompetence is beyond reason. My daughter(12)'s keyboard got broken, now she is afraid she wont be able to take her exam with an external keyboard because there is a spyware extension they use called 'safe exam browser' that might block her computer when she plugs the keyboard. Most of the kids are just using it to snapchat during class. I will honestly prefer to ju…

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

Think of tech like chemistry class. We don't let kids carry around chemicals all day to use however they want. Instead, we have them do experiments in a special lab under close watch. Computers should be treated the same way. They shouldn't be something students can use anytime, anywhere without guidance. Just like we handle dangerous chemicals with care, we should also be careful with technology. It's powerful, and if not used correctly, it can be harmful. Let's make sure when kids use computers, it's in a controlled environment, where they can learn safely and responsibly. Treat tech with respect, just like we do with chemistry.

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by martin_a »

lukan wrote: post #12

Chromebooks are very well done technically. The "only" thing you would need to do, is un-google them. But then they don't work anymore ...

Well, there seems to be a solution, didn't see the talk yet, but it's available here: https://media.ccc.de/v/37c3-11929-turning_chromebooks_into_r...

Re: Final Decision on Chromebook Case in Denmark

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Post by throwaway71271 »

blackhaz wrote: post #13
lukan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I will honestly prefer to just ban all tech from schools." But can one really hope, to prepare students for life then?

We didn't have any tech in school and yet we've turned out just fine, now sitting here and typing this on HN. I'm all for banning tech from schools. Allowing Google to enter the school system has been a crime against our children.

We are very much responsible for being on the wrong side in the war against general purpose computing.

The "user" not being able to change or understand any single program they use, being driven further and further away form the technology, in an almost comical way, that we have arrived to the point of "I dont know if i can plug a keyboard in my laptop".

She tried to save a file, which of course did not work due to some One Drive permission thing, then she uploads it to her teacher in Teams, and it gets automatically converted from docx to odt or something else, so what she sees is not what the teacher sees, and of course there were subtle differences in the order of the images and etc, so it affects her grade.

She got quite stressed until I just told her to make a pdf and upload it, but she was smart to double check and download the uploaded file and figure out its not right.

I just dont understand how did we end up here, but more importantly, I dont understand what to do to make it better, so I am just withdrawing, going into a world of riscv and 1.44 floppy drives and just live in a parallel tech universe.

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