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Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

Global tech companies are a bit bonkers to think that they can get the voted political establishment to comply with increasingly human-hostile behaviours as well ;)

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by jocaal »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #10

I don't think I agree with all of his points but I do agree with his point that other countries outside the EU will try to persuade Apple that they want Apple to play by those rules. They'll be under a lot of pressure to roll out what they do there elsewhere. And the argument that they can't goes away the second they show that they can in the EU. And of course everybody forgets about the Chinese market where Apple ha…

> They'll be under a lot of pressure to roll out what they do there elsewhere.

Japan is also in the process of making similar laws[1].

[1] https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Japan-to-crack-d...

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by dash2 »

atoav wrote: post #4
camillomiller wrote: post #3

These issues need good unbiased reporting, and as much as I love Cory, his reporting is all but unbiased. It's activism. Which is perfectly ok, and extremely important, but in this case it reeks of an extremism that is damaging to the cause itself. The truth is that decrying things like Apple's splash screen about the use of alternative stores, for example, is ridiculous. Apple has all the legal rights to do that, an…

So more options are bad, because people might make choices that they don't understand? Is this the invisible hand of the market that people have been wanging on about for the past dekades? Or is this new-found worry about people choosing wrong things something that is only limited to Apple? Because I could imagine other, worse markets with much more impact on people that are less regulated (e.g. food).

Food is highly regulated by the state, at least in the US and EU (probably too highly regulated). It is also a market with numerous platforms which compete to offer quality guarantees - i.e. supermarkets. The difference with Apple is just that the platform is more tied in to the hardware.

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by phatfish »

adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

I'm counting down the days like it's Christmas.

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by omeid2 »

adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

You see it as "7%" but for Apple it is "a large enough market for a competitor to grow into a potential risk for taking away market elsewhere too".

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by adastra22 »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #20
adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

> At some point apple will just leave the market. maybe a good thing. yanis varoufakis said EU had become irrelevant in tech. more investment can go to local tech instead of US monopolies.

I would love for there to be a vibrant European tech scene. But these same sort of business-hostile behavior is exactly why there isn't a European version of Silicon Valley.

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Post by tussa »

adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

7% is $26.8 billion for last year.

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by southerntofu »

tuyiown wrote: post #15
southerntofu wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I know they would be easily scammed by shady apps that don't have to pass through the App Store's review process. My entire family uses F-Droid on ungoogled Androids. They have much less chances to be scammed/exploited because F-Droid is community-run and is explicit about anti-features in the store UI. There just isn't any malware/scam on F-Droid to be scammed with, because the community decides what apps to add a…

> They have much less chances to be scammed/exploited because F-Droid is community-run and is explicit about anti-features in the store UI. That, but also because it's a niche that has not been targeted by malevolence. Enjoy it while it last.

Debian and other distro repositories would like to disagree. When the packager doesn't provide the final build, it becomes much harder for malware/adware to reach end users. Not technically impossible, but much harder than direct-to-users stores such as Apple AppStore or Flathub where it is trivial because whatever binary the uploader provides ends up directly running on user machines.

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by herbst »

adastra22 wrote: post #17

Apple's European revenue for the App Store is only 7% of its global App Store receipts. At some point apple will just leave the market. The EU is a bit bonkers to think that it can get global tech companies to comply with increasingly tech-hostile regulations without any push back or red lines. At some point it just stops being worth the hassle.

Ultimately getting rid of shitty and privacy invading products is exactly what this all is for.

Re: Apple to EU: "Go fuck yourself"

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Post by kybernetyk »

>murder

Setting a bunch of cookies isn’t something I would equate to murder.

If you want me to read your article please use less hyperbole. The author sounds like an unhinged lunatic who takes his pet issue way too seriously.

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