Live data from Hacker News

Bluesky signups are now open to the public

bsky.social

261–270 of 284 posts

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#261
Tried it out for a while, simultaneously with Nostr. It is noteworthy that Jack basically abandoned this and went all into Nostr.

Bluesky is too much of a woke echochamber and it doesn't even have a real chance at achieving its mission, which was decentralized, permissionless, uncensorable sharing of information.

Unfortunately, this project is dead on arrival. I don't think it will ever reach mainstream adoption.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've announced one business model and do intend to iterate and add others, but that's all we've announced for now. The plan is definitely to be sustainable over the long-term.

Honestly this is fucking whacko to me. "We've incorporated a legal entity whose entire purpose is to make money, but we have no idea how that's going to happen." How is this even allowed? Anyway the answer is ads. This just means it's going to be ads. It's always fucking ads. No one has ever gone into a capitalistic venture sans business plan and ended up doing anything besides selling fucking ads.

Look, those underpants aren't going to collect themselves, are they.

And don't worry about Phase Two. Phase Three is when the profit will happen.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#263
post #187
post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We tag trolls so you don't have to."

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, so I'll explain further. Currently, if you want to be part of a social network, your options are to opt-in to Zuckerberg's moderation or Musk's moderation. It would be great if these were _actually_ opt-in (as in, you can be part of a social network without opting in to their moderation polices) and if you can use anyone's "moderation list." I think ultimately this would…

Ultimately is what you end up with is being held under some instance operator's even more capricious, arbitrary and biases moderation "policy." Although I think calling it a policy might be a bit generous.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#264
post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I've tried to seek out and post technical stuff but it's mostly people virtue signalling, rage baiting, and complaining about other sites.

This is sadly a bit of a problem with most Twitter alternatives right now; many more niche communities haven't moved over (or have only chosen to go to one of them), so there's a good chance you won't find content you're interested in. Mastodon seems to have more of the tech crowd from what I can tell, but even then it's maybe 1% of the audience you might have had on Twitter.

They aren't going to move over; the reddit/twitter model of 'crosspollination' is fundamentally flawed - if trolls can just stroll over from their little trollzone at any time they will do so and every conversation will get derailed with politics/gender/whatever gets the most engagement; character assassination will be the dominant paradigm.

Silos are the answer. Open to all but topic focussed and with no cross-referencable userhistory. Or 100% anonymity with no userhistory i.e. futaba type message boards.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#265

I've been on for a few months now. It feels like 2014 Twitter in that it doesn't have gifs or video, so you will see some very good jokes. A number of people I used to follow on Twitter are over there but seem to have broken out of the posting habit and are quieter now. When I look at the "discover" tab I don't usually see much stuff that's interesting to me. It's a lot of men posting thirst-traps, furries, bog stand…

Maybe this will give it critical mass -- with more people able to join, perhaps more will stop visiting twitter and We Can Have Nice Things Again.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#266

I've been on for a few months now. It feels like 2014 Twitter in that it doesn't have gifs or video, so you will see some very good jokes. A number of people I used to follow on Twitter are over there but seem to have broken out of the posting habit and are quieter now. When I look at the "discover" tab I don't usually see much stuff that's interesting to me. It's a lot of men posting thirst-traps, furries, bog stand…

Yeah, I've tried to seek out and post technical stuff but it's mostly people virtue signalling, rage baiting, and complaining about other sites.

it's very 'scoldy' too

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#267
post #187
post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We tag trolls so you don't have to."

I'm not sure if you're being facetious or not, so I'll explain further. Currently, if you want to be part of a social network, your options are to opt-in to Zuckerberg's moderation or Musk's moderation. It would be great if these were _actually_ opt-in (as in, you can be part of a social network without opting in to their moderation polices) and if you can use anyone's "moderation list." I think ultimately this would…

It's interesting that 10 years ago there was a media driven panic about "filter bubbles", and now we are at a point where the abilitiy to choose your own filter bubble is considered a feature.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of that is on mastodon fwiw, and some hasn't left Twitter

I've mostly been able to curate my Twitter feed to not include that stuff. Similarly for Mastodon. The problem is BlueSky tries to add algorithmic feeds while not doing it well enough to learn that I don't want to see it.

BlueSky lets people add their own algorithmic feeds, and customize which feeds they subscribe to. Currently I have "Following" (strictly reverse chronological feed of the people I follow), "What's Hot Classic" (reverse chronological feed of posts that are "hot", by some unclear metric, but not tailored to me), and "Discover" (described as "Trending content from your personal network"). I can remove any of those feeds, and use any others I want, including curated feeds of: scientists, furries, black users, cats, authors, people you follow who follow you back, people who follow you that you don't follow back, or just create your own feed.

If you want to only ever see a strictly reverse chronological feed of the people you follow, then remove all feeds other than "Following", done. If you don't want to see reposts, then turn off seeing reposts. If you don't want to see replies, then turn off seeing those too. I'm not sure what you experienced which isn't easily solvable. The only QoL feature I can think of that isn't yet supported is the ability to selectively turn off reposts from individual people you follow.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#269

Tried it out for a while, simultaneously with Nostr. It is noteworthy that Jack basically abandoned this and went all into Nostr. Bluesky is too much of a woke echochamber and it doesn't even have a real chance at achieving its mission, which was decentralized, permissionless, uncensorable sharing of information. Unfortunately, this project is dead on arrival. I don't think it will ever reach mainstream adoption.

Bsky feels like Gab for woke folx and I find it incredibly boring because of that. The discussions are on par with reading front page of reddit comments, even to the point where the most engaged content is a meta commentary on some twitter content.

Unlike reddit, filtering down the feed just doesn’t pay dividends in the way niche subreddits can. I guess it’s because the personalities and views which have been interested in leaving twitter to join bsky all fit the same template.

For instance, the AI, business, tech, and finance communities are simply not there. Performance art, too. Media/politics is there, but the discourse is extremely flat.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#270

I've been on for a few months now. It feels like 2014 Twitter in that it doesn't have gifs or video, so you will see some very good jokes. A number of people I used to follow on Twitter are over there but seem to have broken out of the posting habit and are quieter now. When I look at the "discover" tab I don't usually see much stuff that's interesting to me. It's a lot of men posting thirst-traps, furries, bog stand…

Just echo chambers doing echo chamber things.
Post reply on HN