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Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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A warning about Philips electric toothbrushes: you cannot turn off Bluetooth on them, even if you are not using the smart features. Also be careful with all Philips air purifiers that support Wi-Fi, because the remote control feature cannot be disabled. They create a Wi-Fi hotspot that you need to connect to with a smartphone to finish setting up the device, but if you don't use these features, the air purifier will…

Same with my samsung tv and my neighbour keeps trying to pair her watch to it for reasons I don’t know.

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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This article is strange & many details are lacking. All the big smart toothbrushes use BLE and are not WiFi-connected. Tried to fact-check the article, but nothing. A bunch of BLE chips are also WiFi capable, so not ruling out that someone compromised the firmware to enable WiFi functionality, but I wonder how they were able to connect to WiFi to trigger a botnet in the first place. Quite skeptical of this article, w…

It's not something that actually happened. It's just some bullshit that's gone viral.

https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/111886558855943676

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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I have an older Phillips toothbrush without Bluetooth, Internet or vendor-locked heads, and it charges wirelessly in a glass cup. I love it. I recently tried to buy a second one and could only find newer models with all these garbage features I don't want. Who the hell wants their toothbrush to connect to the internet? Wound up turning to eBay to find stock of the old one. It might sound cruel, but I hope the moron w…

Wifi is silly, but there really is a benefit to the Bluetooth/app connection -- it is used to see where you are brushing and spots you are missing. My dentist definitely has seen an improvement in the plaque in my back teeth since I started using a smart toothbrush that uses an app on my phone.

How does it know the location you are brushing?

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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This literally happened to me on Friday. I was setting up a smart TV for my uncle and he just uses it for his Chromecast so I thought "whatever, I'm not going to connect this TV to his wifi." Come to find out, the TV locks you out of EVERYTHING if you do not connect it to the internet. You see the homescreen but you aren't allowed to switch the input unless you connect to the wifi. Even after connecting to wifi, you…

I had one like this (Toshiba), and I did the initial setup, then blocked it at my router from ever accessing the Internet again. Next TV purchase was a different brand (TCL) that didn't require such stupidity.

I would have returned it.

"It's for the basement room, no WiFi there" if the shop argues.

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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post #99

This article is strange & many details are lacking. All the big smart toothbrushes use BLE and are not WiFi-connected. Tried to fact-check the article, but nothing. A bunch of BLE chips are also WiFi capable, so not ruling out that someone compromised the firmware to enable WiFi functionality, but I wonder how they were able to connect to WiFi to trigger a botnet in the first place. Quite skeptical of this article, w…

>A bunch of BLE chips are also WiFi capable, so not ruling out that someone compromised the firmware to enable WiFi functionality The ESP32 is now used as a general-purposed chip even in applications where an 8-bit MCU would have been enough. A remotely exploitable vulnerability in the ESP32/SDK could have large-scale consequences.

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Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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So do I drink my verification can before or after brushing?

Before. Otherwise, you're washing down all the fluoride instead of giving it time to bind to your enamel via chemical API calls.

Explains why I went into programming after doing a BSc in Chemistry. Just a different kind of API!

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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Anyone in Wi-Fi range can exploit the device. The sensors of the air purifier can be used for spying, and the device could also serve as a hopping point for exploiting other devices in your home.

> The sensors of the air purifier can be used for spying To be able to... know if your target's house has a lot of pollutants? Is particularly warm? There is practically no useful information that can't be gleamed by just looking through their windows, blinds and all. > and the device could also be used as a hopping point for exploiting other devices in your home. It's not connected to your home network, that's the w…

If the sensors don't detect your farts for a while you're probably not at home so the burglars can come in

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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Wifi is silly, but there really is a benefit to the Bluetooth/app connection -- it is used to see where you are brushing and spots you are missing. My dentist definitely has seen an improvement in the plaque in my back teeth since I started using a smart toothbrush that uses an app on my phone.

How does it know the location you are brushing?

Bluetooth from the teeth! It is in the name ; )

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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post #49

A warning about Philips electric toothbrushes: you cannot turn off Bluetooth on them, even if you are not using the smart features. Also be careful with all Philips air purifiers that support Wi-Fi, because the remote control feature cannot be disabled. They create a Wi-Fi hotspot that you need to connect to with a smartphone to finish setting up the device, but if you don't use these features, the air purifier will…

Same with my samsung tv and my neighbour keeps trying to pair her watch to it for reasons I don’t know.

She most likely doesn't know either.

Re: Three million malware-infected smart toothbrushes used in Swiss DDoS attacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The sensors of the air purifier can be used for spying To be able to... know if your target's house has a lot of pollutants? Is particularly warm? There is practically no useful information that can't be gleamed by just looking through their windows, blinds and all. > and the device could also be used as a hopping point for exploiting other devices in your home. It's not connected to your home network, that's the w…

You're lacking in imagination, and maybe the conceptual idea of "sensor fusion". Multiple seemingly innocuous data streams in isolation can be combined to create sensors you wouldn't have imagined

Do you understand what data is available in a smart air purifier?

Please, explain exactly what sensor fusion would get you actionable data out of the PM2.5 sensor and "gas sensor" in a Philips smart air purifier.

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