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Bluesky signups are now open to the public

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Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#221
post #65

Requiring phone number is a straight no go from me, sorry.

Understandable! We hope to relax this but we felt it was necessary to maintain the quality of the network for now.

Can people bypass the phone number requirement with invites? I still have a few invites left and I am wondering if they have value going forward.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#222
post #65

Requiring phone number is a straight no go from me, sorry.

Understandable! We hope to relax this but we felt it was necessary to maintain the quality of the network for now.

I think we'd all rather not be flooded by bots so no reason to change

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of that is on mastodon fwiw, and some hasn't left Twitter

I've mostly been able to curate my Twitter feed to not include that stuff. Similarly for Mastodon. The problem is BlueSky tries to add algorithmic feeds while not doing it well enough to learn that I don't want to see it.

I think the future has to be feed ingestion that is 100% controlled by the user. To some extent we were there with RSS readers. I'm still able to retrieve Twitter feeds with an RSS reader. Everything comes together in one place, in order.

If this is done on device and everything is archived, it starts getting really powerful. For example, after the 737 MAX door incident, I searched "Boeing" in my RSS reader and instantly had a list of news stories going back over the past year. (The number of 737 incidents that has been happening around the world is a lot more than what sits in the top of the news, but that's another discussion.) A local LLM could even summarize large amounts of stored headlines and tweets going back over years, and that's tech that works today.

I don't want third party ad platforms (which now consists of Google, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and more) measuring, running tests, re-ordering, and deleting on my communications. The LLMs and machine learning advancements are going to just make this more invasive, ugly, and manipulative.

Sure, hn is largely about VC backed startups going on to try to have a multi-billion dollar IPO. It's also about disrupting incumbents. I can't think of a better path to disruption than coming up with business models that choke off their user-bases and end ad monetized surveillance. I for one have no interest in a future where I wear an Apple/Facebook/Google controlled AR/VR headset that has cameras to make sure my eyes are looking at all of the ads which are targeted based on the other pixels it knows I looked at. (I feel like a paranoid schizophrenic writing that, but that is what they are making.)

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#224
post #40

Pretty ironic that when Twitter was imploding Meta launched a competitor that was fully compatible with ActivityPub/Mastodon while the team dedicated to building an open competitor (Bluesky) created a proprietary protocol that nobody uses.

Threads has been promising to integrate with ActivityPub since it launched. To date they've done very little and their timeline extends until the end of 2024. I'd personally be very happy if Threads gives up control over their users but it remains to be seen. ActivityPub also lacks the very strong account portability feature that made AT Protocol necessary. AT Protocol is completely open source and the Bluesky networ…

> To date they've done very little

Not true. You can now follow Adam Mosseri's Threads account from Mastodon.

And like you said they are committed to fully rolling it out this year.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#225
post #40

Pretty ironic that when Twitter was imploding Meta launched a competitor that was fully compatible with ActivityPub/Mastodon while the team dedicated to building an open competitor (Bluesky) created a proprietary protocol that nobody uses.

Threads has been promising to integrate with ActivityPub since it launched. To date they've done very little and their timeline extends until the end of 2024. I'd personally be very happy if Threads gives up control over their users but it remains to be seen. ActivityPub also lacks the very strong account portability feature that made AT Protocol necessary. AT Protocol is completely open source and the Bluesky networ…

FWIW, you can now follow people on Threads from Mastodon and interact as if they're just another Mastodon user.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SMS verification requirement is only for the Bluesky operated PDS host. Soon (this month) it will be possible for others to self-host their own PDS hosts that do not have this requirement.

how will the bluesky PDS deal with the flood of spammers on malicious PDSs, like, why is the phone number a useful gatekeeping tool if you're just going to fling open the gates at the end of the month?

We do have an anti-abuse tool to help flag abuse. It is obviously important that PDS operators not allow themselves to become overrun with abusive users.

Anyone technical can run their own single-user or low-user-count PDS and probably not have to worry about any problems.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Threads has been promising to integrate with ActivityPub since it launched. To date they've done very little and their timeline extends until the end of 2024. I'd personally be very happy if Threads gives up control over their users but it remains to be seen. ActivityPub also lacks the very strong account portability feature that made AT Protocol necessary. AT Protocol is completely open source and the Bluesky networ…

> To date they've done very little Not true. You can now follow Adam Mosseri's Threads account from Mastodon. And like you said they are committed to fully rolling it out this year.

Limited functionality for a specified subset of users counts as "very little" to my mind given that they launched 6 months ago and have a team of hundreds working on it.

But like I said, I sincerely do hope Threads follows through on their plan to federate. But it's just not correct to claim that they already have.

Re: Bluesky signups are now open to the public

#230
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a very inspiring answer :( The consequences of taking VC money are going to come home to roost at some point.

We'll see! The history of funded companies popularizing open protocols is not without precedent. I'm inspired by Netscape, which was the VC-backed company that made the web happen.

Netscape didn't invent the web, its open protocol, or even the first browsers. They did not make the web happen.

Netscape had a business model (charge people for browser software.)

Netscape also went bankrupt. It was a colossal failure as a business.

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