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Would you explain why this makes you proud? I assume as the kid is showing a good grasp on identifying his emotions.
I can guess they are proud because they were slapped in the face but didn't react in anger.
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That's why I moved to a country where (a, specifically) the rule of law is accessible to all, and (b, generally) important things rarely break down. Justice is depicted as blind in statuary for a reason. Edit: upon reflection, even in the Old Country, where accessibility to the law is debatable, anger doesn't seem useful. Either someone has the power to gain remedy by extralegal means or they do not, and whether they…
To be more explicit: either one has the power to gain remedy via extralegal means or one does not. If one does, doing so angrily or not doesn't change much. If one does not, I claim that first gaining the necessary power ("sleep on brushwood and taste gall") is much more likely to be effective than rashly attempting something in the expectation anger should somehow magically augment one's initial lack of power. (in f…
Here's a decent article on the anger spectrum: https://psychology.tips/levels-of-anger/
It uses five degrees of anger (one could easily quibble, and add or subtract, based on general or personal ideas of anger): Irritation, Frustration, Resentment, Rage, and Hatred.
Ask how anyone would be motivated to gain a legal or extralegal remedy if not feeling at the very least irritation.
It's a serious mistake to only equate anger to rage or hatred.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be more explicit: either one has the power to gain remedy via extralegal means or one does not. If one does, doing so angrily or not doesn't change much. If one does not, I claim that first gaining the necessary power ("sleep on brushwood and taste gall") is much more likely to be effective than rashly attempting something in the expectation anger should somehow magically augment one's initial lack of power. (in f…
Emotions are motivation. Here's a decent article on the anger spectrum: https://psychology.tips/levels-of-anger/ It uses five degrees of anger (one could easily quibble, and add or subtract, based on general or personal ideas of anger): Irritation, Frustration, Resentment, Rage, and Hatred. Ask how anyone would be motivated to gain a legal or extralegal remedy if not feeling at the very least irritation. It's a serio…
> Impaired Decision Making: When consumed by anger, rational thinking tends to take a backseat which could result in poor decision making.
(In fact, because my major interest is in good decision making despite high adrenaline levels, I lump Irritation, Frustration, and Resentment into a boring Dissatisfaction; I can appreciate that distinguishing these as well as linking them to the highly-limbic expressions of anger would be useful for people who are discussing non-adrenalised states, but for me the non-adrenalised/adrenalised boundary yields a clear qualitative distinction between dissatisfaction and anger)
I guess it might help if natural language agreed on emotional ranges at least to the extent that it agrees on colour names...
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#154This seems particularly useful to know about especially as organizational change across so many workplaces has created tension. The only part I wonder about is the "playful" storytelling. There are definitely better ways to communicate danger to a child than the boogeyman. It will take a lot more effort than a silly story, but you're trying to build up their mind after all.
> There are definitely better ways to communicate danger to a child than the boogeyman. Why do you say that? "If you go into the water you will die." Death is pretty abstract to a toddler. Even extreme pain - they've never been hurt in any serious way. "If you go into the water you will be grabbed by a monster and taken away." It's all concepts a toddler is very familiar with.
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Emotions are motivation. Here's a decent article on the anger spectrum: https://psychology.tips/levels-of-anger/ It uses five degrees of anger (one could easily quibble, and add or subtract, based on general or personal ideas of anger): Irritation, Frustration, Resentment, Rage, and Hatred. Ask how anyone would be motivated to gain a legal or extralegal remedy if not feeling at the very least irritation. It's a serio…
Aha, that's our problem: for me, anger is part of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response and so Irritation, Frustration, and Resentment aren't included because they don't necessarily involve that article's: > Impaired Decision Making: When consumed by anger, rational thinking tends to take a backseat which could result in poor decision making. (In fact, because my major interest is in good decisio…
I'm not overly familiar with this part of psychology, but I think a good distinction is between emotions and mood states. Adrenalized anger would probably be considered a mood state. I'm probably wrong about this though, as a quick search leads to distinctions between emotions, feelings, and moods. It looks like there are also "mood disorders" which seem to be extended affective complexes of particular emotions.
> I guess it might help if natural language agreed on emotional ranges at least to the extent that it agrees on colour names...
Probably the largest reason it doesn't is because while the majority of humans experience visual sensation similarly enough (white/blue dress notwithstanding), the emotions are something else entirely. We spend so much time in certain emotions compared to other people that it's like wearing colored wraparound spectacles all of the time.
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#156One of my proudest parenting moments: my 9 yo was crying around noon, I was trying to comfort him and he slapped me in the face with anger. “Are you slapping me because you’re hungry?” “Yeah” “You want a banana?” “Yeah”
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Aha, that's our problem: for me, anger is part of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fight-or-flight_response and so Irritation, Frustration, and Resentment aren't included because they don't necessarily involve that article's: > Impaired Decision Making: When consumed by anger, rational thinking tends to take a backseat which could result in poor decision making. (In fact, because my major interest is in good decisio…
That makes sense, and sure. I'm not overly familiar with this part of psychology, but I think a good distinction is between emotions and mood states. Adrenalized anger would probably be considered a mood state. I'm probably wrong about this though, as a quick search leads to distinctions between emotions, feelings, and moods. It looks like there are also "mood disorders" which seem to be extended affective complexes…
(affect and mood may be well defined within a discipline, but cursory googling seems to reveal substantial interdisciplinary inconsistency)
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That makes sense, and sure. I'm not overly familiar with this part of psychology, but I think a good distinction is between emotions and mood states. Adrenalized anger would probably be considered a mood state. I'm probably wrong about this though, as a quick search leads to distinctions between emotions, feelings, and moods. It looks like there are also "mood disorders" which seem to be extended affective complexes…
How about this: because we are capable of the (potentially motivational) conscious feeling anger, relying on the unconscious emotion anger has questionable utility? (affect and mood may be well defined within a discipline, but cursory googling seems to reveal substantial interdisciplinary inconsistency)
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Every day I become more convinced that Hanlon’s razor is an example of malice.
How so?
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> but then I remember to never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Even though there's plenty of evidence of malice in Hollywood. For an example that everyone agrees on, there's military propaganda in almost all movies and video games made about the military.
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How so?
Obviously I have no evidence to back this up, but it seems to mostly be used on the Internet in an intellectually lazy way to avoid confronting the fact that many people really are malicious, and the effect of Hanlon's razor, in my experience, is to lower the quality of discourse (which is why I think its invocation is usually malicious even if it's not intended to be). Edit (addendum): > but then I remember to never…