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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by charcircuit »

midasuni wrote: post #511
charcircuit wrote: post #479

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>What is the benefit to the rights holder in having a “secure device” The goal is to make it expensive for it to even make it to a pirate site. We will get to the point where it will require a new hardware exploit to be found for each show that gets cracked. As the industry gets better at security the price per exploit will go up to eventually not be economical to continue doing.

Given it just needs to be done once, and a hdcp stripping device is easy to get, how does that work?

>Given it just needs to be done once

Since it is still the early days I think they are hesitant to ban every insecure device once one is discovered. This greatly decreased the cost for attackers.

>and a hdcp stripping device

Those only work with older versions of HDCP. Over time newer versions of HDCP will keep making the security better making it eventually impossible for an external splitter to work. No such splitter exists for HDCP 2.3 which came out 6 years ago.

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Post by jszymborski »

kelnos wrote: post #390
jszymborski wrote: post #351

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> I'm not sure that really makes sense for TV/movies, since it would also mean a fixed royalty price for everything. Any reason why you think it would be a problem to have a fixed price? I think the studios would have to swallow it if it was compulsory, no?

Because there's much more variation in what it costs to make a TV episode or movie than what it costs to make an album of music. If there was one fixed royalty for every movie, it would presumably be too low to recoup the cost of blockbusters, so we just wouldn't get those anymore (I know some people wouldn't care, but most people would). And low-budget stuff would get "too much" (maybe less of a problem ;) ). Then a…

This is interesting. I'm just coming from the perspective that when I go to the theatre, there's just one general admission price regardless of the picture I'm seeing.

But I understand how TV is very different. You have "prestige" TV and you have your network sitcoms.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by shafyy »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #810
shafyy wrote: post #668

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Cool! Is Popcorn time still recommended? Or what's a good client?

On Mac, Transmission. On Windows, QBittorrent. Then I just search on various torrent sites. Thepiratebay.org and rutracker.org (use google). But movies and TV shows are easy to find. There are many sites which specialise in it.

Thanks! Any opinions on Popcorn? Seems convenient that the searching and playing is in the same app?

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by aljgz »

abdusco wrote: post #669
aljgz wrote: post #646

As someone who rarely watch movies/series, I was paying ~100$/month worth of subscriptions until I cancelled most recently. Why? Content fragmentation is mentioned by everyone, but to me, the main problem was that I could never get a proper watching experience even after finding what I wanted: 1- English subtitles only available with CC: I want subtitles because as a non-native English speaker I cannot understand som…

> I hate it when the subtitle says: "glooming musinca playing" Different strokes for different folks. As another non-native speaker, I personally like those descriptions, because they help me label a kind of music, or an emotional outburst. It's like knowing how to describe a pain you have. You can't just say "it hurts" to a doctor, you need to be more specific ("it's a throbbing sensation with occasional sharp pierc…

That's why having a choice matters. To me, In a rare movie/show that's well produced, I want to feel what the authors wanted, not to read it from the screen. A lot of the times, the experience has more layers than just being "gloomy music", there are hidden feelings in the scene, in the character's body language, in a purposefully vague conversation. My only problem is not understanding weird accents. I don't need to read thunders/music feelings, woman screams, etc.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by aljgz »

magicalhippo wrote: post #728
aljgz wrote: post #646

As someone who rarely watch movies/series, I was paying ~100$/month worth of subscriptions until I cancelled most recently. Why? Content fragmentation is mentioned by everyone, but to me, the main problem was that I could never get a proper watching experience even after finding what I wanted: 1- English subtitles only available with CC: I want subtitles because as a non-native English speaker I cannot understand som…

> English subtitles only available with CC The worst part of the subs for the hard of hearing is that the contain so many spoilers. They'll write "JOHN:" an hour before our protagonist learns who exactly this mysterious character is, completely ruining any surprise.

This. There are just too many ways to spoil a carefully planned experience.

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Post by saiya-jin »

marxisttemp wrote: post #776
saiya-jin wrote: post #620

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This is not correct, the bitrates are actually cca 2x that high. I don't have YIFY much, went for RARBG since they released literally everything I cared about and wanted a bit of uniformity, always with subs, bad releases got PROPER fix etc. But they both aimed at same file sizes. X265 1080p movies for both rippers are roughly 1.5-2GB per average movie, which is on average 1.5-2h long. You won't find better quality i…

I do. But I’m on private trackers where almost all content is well-seeded and long-term seeding is rewarded, so download time is less of a concern. Why? Because I want the highest-quality possible copy. Same reason I download lossless versions of albums. It’s less about being able to perceive the quality increase, and moreso about archival. Then my Plex server can transcode to appropriate streaming bitrates on the fl…

Man, I want best quality too, I have all my music in FLACs even on my phone. But even on 75" from 4m I simply don't see the difference, so for me thats chasing numbers or similar.

And building and properly maintaining some not-so-small array of massive HDDs for those capacities... I just don't see the point when I can get all I need (and ie in sound much much more), without caring more than buying a single hdd and be done for next 5 years.

Its not the bandwidth, 1gbps is easy to get here, stuff I saw in those sizes was well seeded too, but just overall all added extra work.

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Post by albrewer »

abdusco wrote: post #669
aljgz wrote: post #646

As someone who rarely watch movies/series, I was paying ~100$/month worth of subscriptions until I cancelled most recently. Why? Content fragmentation is mentioned by everyone, but to me, the main problem was that I could never get a proper watching experience even after finding what I wanted: 1- English subtitles only available with CC: I want subtitles because as a non-native English speaker I cannot understand som…

> I hate it when the subtitle says: "glooming musinca playing" Different strokes for different folks. As another non-native speaker, I personally like those descriptions, because they help me label a kind of music, or an emotional outburst. It's like knowing how to describe a pain you have. You can't just say "it hurts" to a doctor, you need to be more specific ("it's a throbbing sensation with occasional sharp pierc…

On the other hand, as someone who knows a smattering of words in other languages, I love when I know what a character is shouting in a foreign language. But I don't get that when the subtitles just say "[shouting in foreign language]"

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Post by xnacly »

epolanski wrote: post #682

I'm baffled at the amount of users arguing that piracy is easier than those streaming services. It feels like such a mental gimmick. 1) finding and downloading torrents requires know-how 2) finding and downloading subtitles that match the audio is often a chore and requires know-how, often time consuming 3) using a decent player on most devices and finding the files on the filesystem requires know-how, especially on…

At least for the last point i can recommend jellyfin. It has a web interface, a android tv app and an iphone app. I use it on my phone, tv and in the browser.

https://jellyfin.org/

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Post by danaris »

prawn wrote: post #207
wackget wrote: post #31

I have one point which I really feel exemplifies the entire Netflix experience: before you sign up, they do not give you a list of what's available to watch. Seriously, check out their website. It's basically a landing page which says "give us your money". The prices aren't even displayed. There is no list of shows, save for a few measly screenshots of featured/well-known titles. There is a search box which lets you…

If you search "dune streaming" in Australia, the top result (besides Google's little bits) is Netflix with the page title "Watch Dune". If you visit that page as a subscriber, it doesn't say they don't have it. It just has the metadata and a "Remind me" button. If you visit in incognito, you get a 'not found' error. Maybe they have it for another locale. Maybe they used to have it. Maybe they will have it in the futu…

A few years back, we were watching the Lucifer series—which, after being cancelled on whatever network it was on, was picked up by Netflix for its last...2 seasons, I think.

One day, it just...disappeared. One of Netflix's own shows (we were, by that time, watching the episodes they had produced).

Every source I could find said that Netflix carried it. But when I searched for it on Netflix, I couldn't find it.

A few months later, it reappeared, as mysteriously as it had vanished. Of course, by that time I'd simply downloaded the remainder of the series and we'd watched it through Plex.

I live in America.

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Post by Nullabillity »

rekoil wrote: post #724
Nullabillity wrote: post #702

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$9k ($4k player + $5k server) for a basic system is not a very "only" downside, and it seems kind of pathetic if you can't even access it from a regular desktop.

It's great that it exists, but I'm priced out.

Is it, though? Does _any_ of this need unique hardware?
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