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Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by malfist »

roenxi wrote: post #74
throwaway_20357 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there is little hope of normalizing relations with Russia, so unfortunately these "Western assets" need to be written off anyway. A large part of them ($98bn) came from Cyprus which might just be round-tripping Russian money.

> I think there is little hope of normalizing relations with Russia After 9/11, the US maintained productive relations with the Saudis. They're actively supporting Israel through the Gaza business. They have a long history of propping up dictators and thrashing countries for hard-to-articulate reasons (I still don't get exactly what the point of Afghanistan or Iraq was, even accepting the blunt "oil" that is sometime…

What exactly does seeking a "quick peace" solution look like in an aggressor without casus belli invading a sovereign nation?

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by macintux »

hobs wrote: post #86
HideousKojima wrote: post #78

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>(I still don't get exactly what the point of Afghanistan or Iraq was, even accepting the blunt "oil" that is sometimes given out). Are you serious? At least on the Afghanistan one? The war in Afghanistan began because the Taliban refused to extradite Osama Bin Laden (and several other terrorist, but Osama was the biggest one), it's pretty straightforward.

No, the taliban did not refuse to do that - Bush refused to take him * https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.te... * https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80482&page=1

That was a highly-conditional offer, that I suspect the U.S. administration felt was designed to give the Taliban and bin Laden breathing room to escape/hide/whatever their next move would have been.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by lolinder »

hobs wrote: post #86
HideousKojima wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>(I still don't get exactly what the point of Afghanistan or Iraq was, even accepting the blunt "oil" that is sometimes given out). Are you serious? At least on the Afghanistan one? The war in Afghanistan began because the Taliban refused to extradite Osama Bin Laden (and several other terrorist, but Osama was the biggest one), it's pretty straightforward.

No, the taliban did not refuse to do that - Bush refused to take him * https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.te... * https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80482&page=1

In those links, the Taliban wasn't offering to hand Bin Laden over to the US, they were offering to hand him over to a third country that would never hand him over to the US. We can argue about whether Bush should have agreed to that offer, but it's a far cry from "refusing to take him":

> Afghanistan's deputy prime minister, Haji Abdul Kabir, told reporters that the Taliban would require evidence that Bin Laden was behind the September 11 terrorist attacks in the US.

> "If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved" and the bombing campaign stopped, "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country", Mr Kabir added.

> But it would have to be a state that would never "come under pressure from the United States", he said.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by whelp_24 »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #13

>(Russian Google) Are there people here who don't know Yandex? Genuinely curious, if you didn't know what it is I'd like to hear from you.

I didn't hear about yandex until last year, and it was probably from this website, and only as an option for duckduckgo to use use for image search.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by mempko »

H8crilA wrote: post #39
MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #14

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Ah yes, just like in Russia we all know someone who was put in the trunk of a car by the FBI and driven around the forest just because they didn't want to pay up to the local director and his network of cronies. Or we all know of a prominent local case of a murderer or rapist that was released from prison (without any legal basis), then went on to fight a war for 6 months, then came back to our city with new military…

You honestly don't remember when people were being snatched off the street in unmarked vans during the BLM protests under Trump? It was caught on video several times.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-us...

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by thriftwy »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #65

I feel sorry for Volozh, he managed to keep his business for longer than many others. It is interesting that a part of the deal is paid in yuan, probably to avoid Western sanctions. This is the new reality in which Russian businesses do exist now and may be a sign of the fragmentation of the global financial system. Also interesting is that while Volozh now resides in Israel, Yandex was very active in UAE recently wi…

If we look at the tech giants, almost none of them has retained the original founders at the helm, and I guess for the same reason that leading a huge corporation requires a very specific life style and compromises, than tech founders are used to.

I believe Arkady Volozh could continue to lead Yandex but he would have to turn into Herman Gref, in terms of loyalties, how he spends his time and the people who he will have to interact with. He choose not to, and that was perhaps a decade ago.

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by RicoElectrico »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #13

>(Russian Google) Are there people here who don't know Yandex? Genuinely curious, if you didn't know what it is I'd like to hear from you.

Despite HN guidelines "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity" people are generally not curious about what is going on outside their country (+US).

Re: Yandex to divest its Russia-based businesses

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Post by elzbardico »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #14
H8crilA wrote: post #4

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Weird accounting tricks in Russia include "the new nobility" making you offers that you cannot refuse. This is a country in which the FSB (equivalent of the FBI) is running their own protection rackets, even on a small scale of a local shop. Property law works very differently over there, which is to say it doesn't quite exist.

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The magic is that in the US, things that are illegal in most of the civilized world like lobbying, private campaign donations and PACs are enshrined in the law. Ergo, see momma! no corruption!
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