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Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #16

Jobs didn't need a college degree to be a good CEO. In my opinion, college degree is not neccessary to be a competent CEO. Leaders are praised for different qualities than those which can be simply taught in a school.

"Jobs didn't need a college degree to be a good CEO." Jobs didn't lie about having a degree either.

No, but he lied to his friend about a 50/50 split on work for $5000 claiming it was $750 and claimed he was sterile after fathering a child.

http://www.jamesaltucher.com/2011/02/10-unusual-things-i-did...

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #16

Jobs didn't need a college degree to be a good CEO. In my opinion, college degree is not neccessary to be a competent CEO. Leaders are praised for different qualities than those which can be simply taught in a school.

That makes the lie even more foolish.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #27

I have a B.S. in Computer Science and B.S. in Mathematics (a double degree). Had I taken fewer courses, I could have had a combined B.S. Computer Science and Mathematics (a double major). I haven't seen a double degree like mine very often, but I have seen the latter form on a LinkedIn profile where Googling for his name returned a university web site showing that the person actually had a minor, not a second major,…

> I have a B.S. in Computer Science and B.S. in Mathematics (a double degree). Had I taken fewer courses, I could have had a combined B.S. Computer Science and Mathematics (a double major).

It's worth noting that with "holds a BS in Computer Science and Mathematics" the double degree/double major distinction is a little ambiguous.

As a broader point, universities are heterogeneous enough that I'm not sure caring deeply about the double degree/double major distinction is useful. It may be a big difference at one institution and no difference at another.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #8
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may look to own more of the company - but at a lower price. A story like this could cause the stock to dip - especially if seen coming from a 5.8% minority owner. A large enough stake that it looks like they are concerned, but small enough that they don't have the direct access to Yahoo! to rectify.

Going further, a dark knight takeover strategy is to quietly pool the shares that multiple companies have -> into one company that then owns a majority stake or has enough votes to exert decisions in their favor. I'm not saying this is the intent here, but one of the first steps down the path.

This tactic will most certainly get the SEC on you. There is a reason why they (the SEC) force those who own or 'control' 5% or more of a publicly traded company to disclose that ownership or control.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

#85
post #53

I'm amazed that anybody gives a shit about this. It's a line on a résumé about a degree he earned 33 years ago. If he was 2 years out of college then lying about his degree would be material to his qualifications and compensation. After 30 years, what possible difference does it make? He is clearly qualified.

Hm, an accountant who lies. Running a public company.

Even with strict accounting controls, investors are going to have trust issues with the financial statements.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #69

It's such a stupid lie as well. He already has a degree in accounting and has loads of relevant experience. Why lie about an additional degree? What's happening here is liar's debt. Early in his career he must have made a decision to lie about his education, when no one was looking and when the chances of someone verifying the claim were low. He reused the lie on every subsequent job and it's stuck with him. It becam…

Cutting him some slack, its possible that his accounting degree had a significant computing component and he decided to bring this significant aspect out. My degree is in Biological Sciences, but in my third year I specialised almost entirely in molecular biology. Informally I'm sure I've said 'I did molecular biology at university' - although on my CV I've always listed Biological Sciences.

While having an accounting degree != being an accountant, accountants are typically held to a higher ethical standard than other professions.

I don't know if Thompson is an accountant, but the perception of a lying accountant running a public company does not bode well for long term investor confidence.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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Sort-of off topic: That guy has nothing on some of the other infamous CEO career lies... take the ex-CEO of Lotus (former makers of 123, Lotus Notes, etc). He lied about being a fighter pilot, having a PhD, and being a black belt in tae kwon do. source: http://www.zdnet.com/news/background-of-lotus-chief-under-fi... I think people get to a point where they start to believe their made-up mythology. Or perhaps they rea…

"It "gave us confidence," says Maj. Gen. Thomas L. Wilkerson, former commander of the Marine Corps Reserve, who increased purchases of Lotus Notes after meeting Papows. "Jeff was a Phantom driver just like me."" This is exactly why people lie, because it doesn't matter how well your software works, what matters is that the people buying it feel like you're on the same team. Whether the CEO is a fighter pilot or not s…

Another thing too: what does it matter if you lie about the degree if /you can do the work/ ? Sure, it's unethical and I'm pretty sure it's illegal to lie outright about stuff like that to potential employers / boards, but again, if you come out and say "hey, I lied about this, but judge me on my output and not on my credentials"...that's gotta be worth something. That said, Yahoo isn't doing great, and I'm sure people will point to this as one reason why :\

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

#88
post #9

This opinion is from someone who's been in charge of hiring a few times and will likely do so again: If you can actually do the job described, I don't give a damn about your credentials. I would not fire an employee who I found out fabricated credentials, if they had been working well for a while.

So are you saying you'd hire a guy with an accounting background with a habit of stretching the truth to handle your finances?

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

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post #27

I have a B.S. in Computer Science and B.S. in Mathematics (a double degree). Had I taken fewer courses, I could have had a combined B.S. Computer Science and Mathematics (a double major). I haven't seen a double degree like mine very often, but I have seen the latter form on a LinkedIn profile where Googling for his name returned a university web site showing that the person actually had a minor, not a second major,…

> I have a B.S. in Computer Science and B.S. in Mathematics (a double degree). Had I taken fewer courses, I could have had a combined B.S. Computer Science and Mathematics (a double major). It's worth noting that with "holds a BS in Computer Science and Mathematics" the double degree/double major distinction is a little ambiguous. As a broader point, universities are heterogeneous enough that I'm not sure caring deep…

I have a BA in History and Religious Studies from UVA. I intentionally state this ambiguously because, while I completed all of the coursework and theses for a BA in each, the university doesn't confer multiple Bachelors degrees. At the time of commencement, I was given the choice whether to walk with either the History or the Religious Studies department, and the diploma states "Bachelor of Arts in History and Religious Studies." The risk for people in situations like mine is that someone reading a resume might think both disciplines were combined into a single major, which would be unfair to the candidate. That said, if the explanation requires a paragraph like this, it's totally not worth trying to do so.

Re: Yahoo CEO might have lied about having CS degree

#90
post #73

I wonder who is trying to pull strings and get board votes. and for what i might add. Yahoo is going through a dark time and to have something like this brought to light is so low.

Third Point is waging a proxy fight. They want three of their own people on the board. YHOO offered two & one that was mutually acceptable. There is much more (if you are interested) in YHOO's most recent DEF 14/A filed yesterday.

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1011006/00011931251220486...

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