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DEF CON 32 Was Canceled. We Un-Canceled it

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Re: DEF CON 32 Was Canceled. We Un-Canceled it

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There are certainly a lot of DefCon attendees who think that this describes them. In my observation they are all very incorrect, usually humorously so fortunately.

Vegas makes a fuckload of money off everyone who thinks they’re smart but doesn’t understand statistics

There are only two types of people: those that believe they can outsmart the house, and those that never gamble.

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They probably make quite a lot off people who think they understand statistics as well.

I'd be willing to be that the intersection of people who think this and then choose to engage in gambling anyway, is probably one of the highest grossing demographics that exist.

If true, we'll eventually see casinos sponsoring statistics MOOCs or other forms of relevant education.

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Vegas makes a fuckload of money off everyone who thinks they’re smart but doesn’t understand statistics

There are only two types of people: those that believe they can outsmart the house, and those that never gamble.

If that was true, the house wouldn't throw people out for suspected card counting.

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Check out https://www.flightsfrom.com/explorer/LAS — particularly comparing its direct flights from all over the continental US to the same for other American cities.

That settles it, DEF CON in Dubai, London or Amsterdam. I vote for Amsterdam. Frankfurt also has the most international destinations (just not volume). (Probably not Dubai, considering a few speakers would be thrown out at the border - or worse if they get though. It's also artificially inflated because it's almost all transit traffic). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_in...

> It's also artificially inflated because it's almost all transit traffic

Dubai is a center for large conferences and Expos.

The row of High rise hotels along Sheik Zayed Road across from Dubai World Trade Center (the largest exhibition hall in Dubai) is astounding.

Gitex, Gulfood and Arab Health are all conference that are largest in their class world wide.

And while A lot of DXBs traffic is transfers, the city does see 15 million international visitors a year, putting it in the top 5 most visited cities.

They can easily accommodate Def Con.

There’s a lot to criticize Dubai for, but they literally built the city to be a center for international conferences.

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post #146

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Everyone is missing "but now held at the Las Vegas Convention Center (LVCC) with workshops and training at the Sahara" part. So this more like they got passed to a different venue. Not "vegas hates them".

The post says they had to do significant work to secure another venue. While it's possible the author could be lying there is no evidence of this so we must, at this point, take them at their word.

Arranging a convention site contract is always a lot of work, even if (hypothetically) the Caesar's rep suggested that they try LVCC.

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Vegas makes a fuckload of money off everyone who thinks they’re smart but doesn’t understand statistics

There are only two types of people: those that believe they can outsmart the house, and those that never gamble.

And card counters.

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I heard a joke a tech conference people in Vegas many years ago. It goes something like "people who go to tech conferences in Vegas bring one shirt and a $20 bill and never change either." So yea, programmers generally aren't gamblers because they know enough math to know the house always wins.

In my experience, programmers like poker, but not games of chance. This also describes me. Poker is a data-heavy game of skill and memory, Craps is about the opposite.

In my experience, potential gambling addiction has nothing to do with rationality or smartness.
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