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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by 0xDEADFED5 »

anonzzzies wrote: post #381
liotier wrote: post #126

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> The killer feature of piracy is thar it just works, not that it is free Especially as piracy has its own costs: VPN (French authorities do detect bittorrent), storage, some Jellyfin or Kodi host, some time to manage the whole *arr setup. The moment legal access to a whole world's worth of movies becomes cheaper and easier than that, piracy becomes unattractive. That was the way Netflix was perceived in its golden a…

> French authorities do detect bittorrent Do they know what you are downloading though? I still use it for a lot of stuff that’s legal. How do they go after people (I guess you imply they do)?

Probably the same way other people do it: DHT surveillance of suspected copyrighted works which log IPs of seeders... or some variation of that

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Post by chrischen »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I can understand why Netflix et al want to block Apple from their data, but back in the beginning you could just say “Play the latest episode of House of Cards” on Apple TV and it just worked. At the end of day user experience is just degraded… and for what?

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Post by ffsm8 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #373
jszymborski wrote: post #346

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Note that Netflix and co. won't stream 4K at all to Linux devices, and they often don't serve 4K if they deem your internet connection to be too slow. For many folks, pirated 1080p is par with what they'd get streaming, and pirated 2k or 4k is better.

What do you mean by 2k? Because people should not call 2560x1440 2k, and I've never seen a download that size either.

Why do you single out 2k? The term "4k" is just as wrong and purely marketing driven as well.

The resolution that's usually behind 2k, which is 1440p as you've correctly pointed out, is usually available as torrents too.

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Post by xref »

Consultant32452 wrote: post #313
danparsonson wrote: post #198

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Time is your most valuable and scarce resource. You have a finite amount and you can't get more.

If that's true, then no one should be watching TV anyways.

Ah the No True Scotsman argument

> If people’s time was truly valuable then no one should be ______ anyway.

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Post by midasuni »

inversetelecine wrote: post #269
data-ottawa wrote: post #260

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I had Prime Video, and when searching for content I would get told to subscribe to some channel within Prime. Now Crave (in Canada) does the same thing. Netflix doesn't bother integrating with Apple TV's search or aggregation features to try and drive you into the app. The end result is searching for legitimate content is a terrible experience. If it's a result from Prime, I just pass. If it's from Crave, I pass. If…

And now prime wants another $2.99 to stream without ads. Something I had previously included. Nickle and diming also drives customers away.

Drove me away. Increasing the price on my yearly renewal wouldn’t have been noticed. Sending me adverts means Amazon have lost out on far more than my cancelled prime subscription - I haven’t bought anything from them, and that’s over $100 a month revenue lost.

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Post by esperent »

js2 wrote: post #315
ladzoppelin wrote: post #291

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No its a DRM issue, its why I run a hidden 25 foot HDMI from my computer to my TV as some broadcasts require the security inside the HDMI cable itself. (I could be wrong on this one but Widevine DRM handles this process I think)

There is no security inside the HDMI cable itself. It's an HDCP negotiation between the source and the sink which occurs over an i2c serial bus along the pair of DDC pins. You may be able to get away with just an HDMI dummy plug: https://www.amazon.com/4K-HDMI-Dummy-Plug-3840x2160/dp/B07FB... I'm not sure if these dummy plugs handle HDCP. If not you can use one in combination with this splitter: https://www.amazon.co…

> You may be able to get away with just an HDMI dummy plug

Or, you can just pirate it and not have to put up with any of this BS.

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Post by sharkjacobs »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

> the services have taken the piss?

Which services do you mean?

Netflix? Or do you mean the other 7 services, which didn’t exist back then.

There was a brief window of time when streaming was able to compete with piracy (free) and it’s when there was just one streaming service. Netflix was able to have a robust (if not comprehensive) catalogue (because it had no competitors), and was dedicated to user experience (becaues it was willing to burn money to grow its customerbase), and had just secured multi-year licensing deals for content from all the major film and television distributors at bargain basement prices (because no one else had yet realized how valuable those streaming rights were).

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Post by runevault »

hedora wrote: post #252
galahad_ wrote: post #232

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The problem ist that a production of f.e. a movie costs money. If the people that make movies don't earn money, they will not make any movies. So they have to earn that money somehow. If the price of their good is 0 why should they bother with filming?

They could earn their money by not actively pissing off their customers. The streaming industry proved that consumers prefer paying for convenient streaming over messing around with privacy. For some reason, they feel they need to burn their own industry down in order to prove that people prefer piracy (or not watching) over inconvenient streaming setups. Is anyone really surprised by the current outcome?

Everyone else saw Netflix making a lot of money and decided just making a healthy amount of money renting the rights to them they had to try and make more money releasing their own service. Gotta love modern capitalistic greed. I wish streaming services was like movie theaters where production companies are not allowed to own theaters (aka the distribution network).

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Post by dang »

angoragoats wrote: post #265
ESTheComposer wrote: post #254

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> I absolutely expect CNN, Google, and any other website to serve me malware. You can find many historical examples of the largest ad networks serving up malware on just about any site in existence. I would love to see a source of a large company like CNN knowingly serving malware in the guise of ads. I've never heard of that but I'm all ears; I feel like it would be big news if CNN knowingly put a crypto miner on yo…

Wow, aren't you the fallacy guy. Please, give me more fallacies! I should just change my username to fallaciousgoats. How about this: I didn't use the word "knowingly" anywhere in my statement, and in fact I have no earthly idea whether the countless examples [1][2][3][4] of malware being served via ad networks on major websites was done knowingly. My guess is it wasn't? So you've got the beginnings of a straw man fa…

You broke the site guidelines repeatedly in this thread, and you've broken them in other threads too (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38695587 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38539273 ).

We have to ban accounts that do this, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, that would be good.

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