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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by dbg31415 »

Maybe Netflix should try putting on good content. They lost so much to Disney and HBO and Hulu. Overseas shows like Rick & Morty were on Netflix a day after they came out. Not so in the US. Where all Netflix seems to have are the “Paul Blart Mall Cop”-quality shows.

Where can I go to watch classics? Sopranos, The West Wing, The Wire… even AMC shows aren’t on Netflix anymore. Yet they want to charge more, and I can’t watch Netflix when I travel for work from a hotel room anymore. It’s terrible service. Then they complain about piracy like it’s not their fault for making it harder and more expensive for people.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by masklinn »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #309
WWLink wrote: post #270

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I support your move, it's better than piracy. The problem with piracy is if you become a fan of a series and gossip with your friends about it, now you're marketing that company's crappy service. It's a weird way to go about things.

It's weird because TV is also culture . Game of Thrones isn't just some random piece of personal, single-player entertainment: it was, and is, an important cultural phenomenon for at least half of the planet. That's what makes the dynamics so weird: it's not just, or even primarily, about your personal entertainment - there are social aspects involved, from wanting to belong with your peer group (e.g. talk about late…

> Same applies to books and musics, to a lesser degree to magazines/news media. For some reason, it mostly doesn't apply to videogames

It absolutely does, but apparently not for your peer group.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by charcircuit »

waffleiron wrote: post #376
charcircuit wrote: post #222

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It should work on Linux if you have have a properly set up protected media path.

Not according to Netflix themselves https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081

Reread it. It says it's possible to stream HD content on Linux instead of only SD. Chromebooks with ChromeOS and certain devices with Android use Linux too, but have worked to get L1 widevine drm working so they have higher resolution available.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by masklinn »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

> One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue

> 12 years old, and as perfect as the day it came out of GabeN’s mouth.

I have not pirated a game in more than a decade, I bought a bunch on sale over Christmas though I likely won’t have the time (or hardware, HL:Alyx was cheap) to play them any time soon. Though it’s a bit of a minor chore I regularly purchase music I find via streaming (I like albums, offline use, and knowing it won’t go away). I’ve never felt the need to pirate a book.

I don’t pirate tv/movies much, mostly because I don’t watch them much due to all the other entertainment available. I did pirate Taskmaster, until they started publishing the episodes on YT.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by thisisit »

bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Even if you are in the USA content is being taken down and unavailable any where.

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Post by freddie_mercury »

radley wrote: post #340
nerdix wrote: post #209

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Also, H265 encoded 1080p is hitting the sweet spot between quality and file size. About 500-ish MB per hour of content for decent quality. Its sort of like when VBR encoded MP3s became the standard in the privacy scene in the early 00s. The quality is good enough for most folks plus the reduced file size means that it downloads really fast on average connections and isn't prohibitively expensive to store so you can c…

> About 500-ish MB per hour of content for decent quality. That's still YIFY-quality video, which is a few steps below HBO/MAX, which happens to be among the lowest quality paid streams. ATV+ is killing it with 30Mbps 4K HDR+ video (it used to be as high as 48Mbps). Disney+ is close. The Netflix 4K plan serves up high 1080p bitrates, 2x better than their 1080p plan. Worth paying for.

25% of all streaming globally is consumed on a mobile device. During the day (commuting to work, during lunch breaks) that number is much higher. Children's programming is also largely consumed on mobile devices (well, tablets).

On small devices like that 4K HDR+ video is kind of meaningless.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by napierzaza »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by masklinn »

skeaker wrote: post #30
bojan wrote: post #18

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Now, it doesn't just work. You need to download the thing, find the right format, get it to the TV in one way or another, hope that the subs are good. Compared to that, it's the streaming that just works. Except when it doesn't.

Right, streaming can win on convenience but loses so hard on content that it has begun to cancel out any reason to use it. Netflix really was great back when it was just getting really popular and had both consistent content and a just-works video player, but to stay popular it needed to keep both, and it hasn't. Piracy can do the other things you mentioned automatically by the way, but I agree that it's less "just-w…

> streaming can win on convenience

It could, but it does not. When you have to hunt for the content you want across a dozen different services you need to be subscribed to and / or that many apps, it’s not convenient.

Even being super basic and not at all in the scene, odds are the first or second piracy site you check has it, it won’t try to upsell you or give you some other content, and if it had the content at one point chances are it still does.

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Post by anothernewdude »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I no longer have to track or care about what service a show is on. It's bliss.
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