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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #24

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Of course this is 100% the correct reasoning. When I was a broke college kid I pirated all the things, and at the time wished, when I could afford it, I’d rather just pay. When I could, I did, for years. Now we’re back at the path-of-least-resistance is pirating.

This is HACKER news, our central ethos is (should be) all information wants to be free. Sad to see the desire to pay for content is getting upvoted.

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #99

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This is HACKER news, our central ethos is (should be) all information wants to be free. Sad to see the desire to pay for content is getting upvoted.

I’ve never equated “hacker == free” ever. In that save vein, no, all information should NOT be free. I sincerely reject your entire premise.

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #60

The streaming space desperately needs consolidation right now. Every rights holder having their own service has killed a lot of the convenience because you'll now need several different services to go through an entire TV show, for instance. And also because all services other than maybe Netflix have garbage software for your various devices. Because every service also has to support 8 different platforms. Video play…

If Netflix had seen themselves strictly as a distribution service, they might have taken an open-to-all, low-margin, high-volume approach, which had a chance to become ubiquitous and unassailable. Basically, they could have been the Cable-over-IP provider for everyone. But it's a lot harder to get there, from here.

They did that, and for a few years their catalog was total crap and getting worse. Then Stranger Things came along.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course this is 100% the correct reasoning. When I was a broke college kid I pirated all the things, and at the time wished, when I could afford it, I’d rather just pay. When I could, I did, for years. Now we’re back at the path-of-least-resistance is pirating.

This is HACKER news, our central ethos is (should be) all information wants to be free. Sad to see the desire to pay for content is getting upvoted.

This is not 1999's Slashdot my friend.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

#116
post #47

Music piracy used to be a big problem. I am not sure if it still is or not? Anyway, it feels like music piracy isn't close to what it was at its peak and that they figured out how to make it work. Is there a reason that video is so much different?

It's not fragmented like video is. You go to your favourite music streaming platform and listen. You don't need to check all 10 services you pay for to work out if the artist is available on it.

Right, but why is it that way?

How did they manage to consolidate all music into 1 service and why can't or won't that work for video?

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #55

Music piracy used to be a big problem. I am not sure if it still is or not? Anyway, it feels like music piracy isn't close to what it was at its peak and that they figured out how to make it work. Is there a reason that video is so much different?

Music rights management is independant of production and distribution. This means that Spotify, Apple Music and any other music services are able to negotiate rights to large libraries of music quite easily.

I wonder why did the rights management for music and video come about so differently.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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I don’t understand how it follows that if artists are paid a pittance, then the moral thing to do is to still consume their content - while depriving them of revenue from residuals.

They get the same amount of residuals if someone doesn't watch something or if they pirate it. Is it immoral to not watch something that gives someone residuals? Do you owe them residuals just because they made something?

> They get the same amount of residuals if someone doesn't watch something or if they pirate it.

That doesn’t make the actions equivalent.

And in OP’s case, it certainly doesn’t given him any moral authority to speak for the plight of the artists.

I’d be curious if he’s spoken to any of these artists, on the best way to support them. Somehow I doubt most of them will be appreciative of the moral stand the OP is taking here.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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What are non-tech-savvy people actually using for piracy these days? Torrents require you to own a PC (there's no way to torrent on a phone or smart TV AFAIK), Usenet requires you to have some tech knowledge, same goes for Plex / Jellyfin. I feel like piracy nowadays is a lot harder for an average Joe than it used to be. People now expect that they can turn on their TV, open an app, enter a title in the search box an…

Torrenting is very easy on Android.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

I tried to watch Rick and Morty season 6 here in Australia, only to find that half of it was on one streaming service, a quarter on another, and the rest not available at all. They make it impractical to obtain legitimately and then complain when we pirate.
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