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The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by veunes »

candiddevmike wrote: post #12
lolinder wrote: post #11

> For a time, at what may have been the height of the internet’s thrall, it became popular to pretend that the digital and material worlds were continuous—that the “real” one had no special meaning, because cyberspace had become a part of it. That turned out to be wrong. We live in cars and on couches and, separately, we also live on phones. Apple believes it can resolve this conflict—that the digital and material wo…

Unfortunately I think most people want the "escape" of these digital worlds. To them (and others), it's easier to live inside of dream world than fix the current one.

If you think about it, it's indeed easier to start from scratch and create a new digital world than to fix the current one. The current world depends on far too many people

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by xeromal »

josephg wrote: post #18
lolinder wrote: post #11

> For a time, at what may have been the height of the internet’s thrall, it became popular to pretend that the digital and material worlds were continuous—that the “real” one had no special meaning, because cyberspace had become a part of it. That turned out to be wrong. We live in cars and on couches and, separately, we also live on phones. Apple believes it can resolve this conflict—that the digital and material wo…

I don't think thats it. Its not the part where we interact with digital devices that is the problem, exactly. Maybe its the part where we stop interacting with other people as people as well. I watched a wild video[1] the other day which really gave me a new perspective on the Apple Vision Pro. Casey Neistat walks around NYC with an apple vision strapped on his head and chats with people in the street. I was arrested…

There's an interesting set of conflicting forces where people are tempted through selfish interests to be lazy interacting with humans and prefer to stay home connected while also craving intimate human interaction. I think this laziness is encouraging us to stay home while also causing all us to feel more isolated and lonely. Like you said, "social junk food", but it's also video games, TV, etc. We've invented more ways to avoid social interaction which causes a feedback-loop of sorts. We're becoming more anti-social but also more lonely.

Having nothing to do is a great driver to force people out of their holes and interacting with other humans. We've made it too easy to stay home

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by zamfi »

throwup238 wrote: post #19

> The headset, which weighs as much as a cauliflower Christ, I just learned the length of a football field (and that there exists a different futbol pitch). Now I have to learn how much random vegetables weigh? Can we at least stick to Brassica oleracea in the future? Whats the brussel sprout equivalent? > A medium-sized head of cauliflower is about 6 inches across, weighs about 2 pounds and makes 4 to 6 servings aft…

Forgive me if I missed the joke, but Cauliflower and Brussels Sprouts are in fact both cultivars of Brassica oleracea...

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by ianpenney »

lolinder wrote: post #11

> For a time, at what may have been the height of the internet’s thrall, it became popular to pretend that the digital and material worlds were continuous—that the “real” one had no special meaning, because cyberspace had become a part of it. That turned out to be wrong. We live in cars and on couches and, separately, we also live on phones. Apple believes it can resolve this conflict—that the digital and material wo…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_Lain

Worth a re-watch in this day and age given your comments on the zeitgeist.

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by haunter »

Was watching the Casey Neistat review video today and it's both crazy as in exciting and somehow terribly frightening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvkgmyfMPks There is just something eerie about the whole thing, like existing on the edge between the digital and real world.

But truly this is the future, there is no stop and it will be miniaturized down to normal glass size sooner or later

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Post by gonzo41 »

cdata wrote: post #20

I saw a bunch of my techie friends all run out to buy one of these on launch day (thanks to their easy availability at Apple stores). As far as I can tell from the reviews: this device is a preview of the future. But, it still needs iterative improvements before it will live up to its promise as a practical workstation or accessible gaming device. It is plain to see that my friends who bought one are enjoying the cam…

Just think, if you put that 4K into an activities fund for yourself you could have weekly meetups in person for a year before running out of cash.

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by Humphrey »

throwup238 wrote: post #19

> The headset, which weighs as much as a cauliflower Christ, I just learned the length of a football field (and that there exists a different futbol pitch). Now I have to learn how much random vegetables weigh? Can we at least stick to Brassica oleracea in the future? Whats the brussel sprout equivalent? > A medium-sized head of cauliflower is about 6 inches across, weighs about 2 pounds and makes 4 to 6 servings aft…

It only occurred to me recently that when people compare something to the length of a football field, they are probably talking about American Football. I had always just assumed (without thinking about it) it was the length of an Australian Rules Football field, which can be almost 70% longer!

It must be about time we all just used metres and grams?

Re: The Apple Vision Pro is spectacular and sad

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Post by jojobas »

veunes wrote: post #21
candiddevmike wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately I think most people want the "escape" of these digital worlds. To them (and others), it's easier to live inside of dream world than fix the current one.

If you think about it, it's indeed easier to start from scratch and create a new digital world than to fix the current one. The current world depends on far too many people

Yes it's easier to keep hitting a pleasure switch, especially if you have a brain of a rat.
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