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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by upupupandaway »

api wrote: post #48
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Amazon Prime and Apple TV are easy. Just rent the movie. It’s a few bucks like video rental shops back in the old days. You can also buy, though only Apple really allows downloading of bought content.

But they don’t have the show or movie you want, then you have to sign up somewhere else.

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Post by SurgeArrest »

Netflix has a problem that the front page is now filled with "B-rated" rather than "A-rated" content for more money than before. The amount of content that they spent money on in the past is hardly discoverable, genre search is barely exposed in the interface. You have to rely on 3rd party sites to find links to category selections, say Epic movies based on true events... good luck finding what they have in this category in the AppleTV or Roku apps. They also don't allow to exclude content that one is not interested in, I want no superheroes, no animated stuff, no dei, etc - and yet every time I launch the app it is there front and center and I just hate this. And if I watched 2 WW2 movies it doesn't mean that's the only thing I'm interested in in the recommended section. I want to exclude producing studios as well, like Vox, let me tell Netflix what I don't like.

So if you start looking outside of their interface - why then not just finish and get the movie elsewhere?

Finally, pricing is not flexible, what if I want infrequent 4k UHD streaming on a single device - why do I pay for 4 streams as if I'm streaming 24/7? At this point, I'm better off with Netflix Pay Per View (if this was offered). I keep paying for this service just because I can and just because I might watch something - but I find it more and more frustrating to watch something...

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Post by avg_dev »

skeaker wrote: post #23
bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Yep. This video is played for laughs but I was shocked to learn how much of it was true and not just satire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhv7bgmz64 Content being fragmented and constantly coming and going is a massive problem for users. Netflix used to be the go-to to find just about any given show or film, but has become a mystery box where the contents change on a near-daily basis. Piracy is reliable and simpl…

great video

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Post by spacebacon »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #15

Piracy is a moral imperative. The internet was supposed to be free and break down barriers. Instead what we have now is a show available in the UK but not available in the US. This is not acceptable. This plus the fact that actual artists get a pittance, means the flag will fly high till companies learn. Also piracy has become much more reliable these days. There are systems which will make sure you get 4k streams ba…

My 12 year old self would agree with you. But I was still opening and closing my friends CD ROM drives at 12 also exposing their home computers to anyone who knew what port to scan. Yeah it was fun but I didn’t fully grasp the consequences at the time. The consequences of piracy are severe to the pirate and to the artist. The true spirit of a hacker is indeed an artist … Someone who questions societal norms in expression of their skills that paints their insight or dissonance for the rest of us to enjoy. In this case your moral imperative is cognitive dissonance. If you find a way to pirate and directly support the artist (cutting out the corporations you hate) that would be more of a moral imperative but also ignoring the importance of the suits that support the artist financially, legally, and pragmatically.

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Post by h4x0rr »

alexfromapex wrote: post #16

“We cracked down on account sharing, added a bunch of ads, DRM, and are seeing the logical response from annoyed consumers”

Oh yeah fuck the DRM... Amazon was even worse with that (got like 360-480p on my laptop wtf), netflix got to 720p. Even then, the bitrate felt so low sadly

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Post by patrickaljord »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I was paying for Netflix 10 years ago in France for a short while, wanted some English subtitles for my wife for some US shows but there were only subtitles in French so had to download the same show elsewhere if you know what I'm saying... with English subtitles readily available. I also remember watching some shows like the first two seasons but then only to find out the third season was licensed by another streaming service lol. Such a UX disaster for paying customers.

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Post by facialwipe »

api wrote: post #48
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Amazon Prime and Apple TV are easy. Just rent the movie. It’s a few bucks like video rental shops back in the old days. You can also buy, though only Apple really allows downloading of bought content.

It’s a few bucks like video rental shops back in the old days.

Of the top 10 in Apple’s current Top Movies Chart in the TV app, 3 cost $5.99 to rent while the other 7 are $19.99 to rent.

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Post by trealira »

xattt wrote: post #42
beart wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Software has completely automated all of these steps. The only barrier is the initial set up, which a non-technical person can figure out over a weekend.

Don’t say the quiet part loud. There will be enterprising individuals that will take the piss out of our convenience by commercializing it.

How could they commercialize it in ways they already haven't? There already exist good, free torrenting clients, and piracy is illegal. The most they could do is set up a subscription service for exclusive torrents which always have seeders, but that's already being done AFAIK, and it's illegal, so they can't really run ads on TV about it.

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Post by Krssst »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #27

The streaming space desperately needs consolidation right now. Every rights holder having their own service has killed a lot of the convenience because you'll now need several different services to go through an entire TV show, for instance. And also because all services other than maybe Netflix have garbage software for your various devices. Because every service also has to support 8 different platforms. Video play…

Also having to look for the hardware that has the right DRM support to be deserving of 1080p streaming rather than 480p.
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