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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by wackget »

I have one point which I really feel exemplifies the entire Netflix experience: before you sign up, they do not give you a list of what's available to watch.

Seriously, check out their website. It's basically a landing page which says "give us your money". The prices aren't even displayed.

There is no list of shows, save for a few measly screenshots of featured/well-known titles. There is a search box which lets you search for titles, but nothing like a catalogue of offerings, which is the absolute bare minimum I'd expect to see before purchasing a service.

I really cannot fathom why anyone would willingly give their hard-earned money to a company which doesn't even tell you what you're getting in exchange.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by ESTheComposer »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #25
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #15

Piracy is a moral imperative. The internet was supposed to be free and break down barriers. Instead what we have now is a show available in the UK but not available in the US. This is not acceptable. This plus the fact that actual artists get a pittance, means the flag will fly high till companies learn. Also piracy has become much more reliable these days. There are systems which will make sure you get 4k streams ba…

No, it absolutely isn't a moral imperative, quite the reverse. I don't know where you get the idea that the internet was "supposed" to be "free" or why the fact that a global transport network for information exists implies that everything transported over it should not require any payment. The logical endpoint of your position is that you will get what you pay for: content that costs almost nothing to produce.

The irony here is from their post history they are a business owner that made 4m in profits last year. Guess it’s a moral imperative to steal from them eh?

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by MrStonedOne »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #25
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #15

Piracy is a moral imperative. The internet was supposed to be free and break down barriers. Instead what we have now is a show available in the UK but not available in the US. This is not acceptable. This plus the fact that actual artists get a pittance, means the flag will fly high till companies learn. Also piracy has become much more reliable these days. There are systems which will make sure you get 4k streams ba…

No, it absolutely isn't a moral imperative, quite the reverse. I don't know where you get the idea that the internet was "supposed" to be "free" or why the fact that a global transport network for information exists implies that everything transported over it should not require any payment. The logical endpoint of your position is that you will get what you pay for: content that costs almost nothing to produce.

you picked up the wrong definition of "free".

They meant free as in freedom.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by SirMaster »

Music piracy used to be a big problem. I am not sure if it still is or not?

Anyway, it feels like music piracy isn't close to what it was at its peak and that they figured out how to make it work.

Is there a reason that video is so much different?

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by everyone »

bojan wrote: post #18
bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Now, it doesn't just work. You need to download the thing, find the right format, get it to the TV in one way or another, hope that the subs are good. Compared to that, it's the streaming that just works. Except when it doesn't.

For me one of the biggest draws of file-sharing is that I find it so easy.

The streaming service way would involve finding where the show is, accounts, credentials, godawful UI, ads, spam, potential malware,+ many other constantly changing and evolving inconveniences.

File-sharing way is just so fast and easy to comprehend for me, search for the show on one site, pick the quality I want, download the files and then do whatever I want with them. Also it hasnt changed in decades.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by cangeroo »

I'm concerned about the artists, the writers, and all the other people who put in the actual work, who deserve a livelihood and recognition.

But the financiers, producers, and distributors have too much power and influence over the culture economy, to an extent where it's not unfair to ask whether they operate like a cartel, with heavy-handed nepotism, blacklisting, and politics.

So yeah, I don't have sympathy for the streaming services.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by j1elo »

Only 6hrs ago this comment summarizes a big part of what's wrong with the streaming model today [1]:

> Disney+ removed Crater ~7 weeks after it was released, purely to reduce residuals and claim losses for lower tax bills[2].

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39252151

[2]: https://kotaku.com/disney-streaming-crater-tax-rort-scam-wri...

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by tacticalturtle »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #15

Piracy is a moral imperative. The internet was supposed to be free and break down barriers. Instead what we have now is a show available in the UK but not available in the US. This is not acceptable. This plus the fact that actual artists get a pittance, means the flag will fly high till companies learn. Also piracy has become much more reliable these days. There are systems which will make sure you get 4k streams ba…

I don’t understand how it follows that if artists are paid a pittance, then the moral thing to do is to still consume their content - while depriving them of revenue from residuals.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by [deleted] »

bojan wrote: post #18
bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Now, it doesn't just work. You need to download the thing, find the right format, get it to the TV in one way or another, hope that the subs are good. Compared to that, it's the streaming that just works. Except when it doesn't.

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