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How Inuit Parents Teach Kids To Control Their Anger (2019)

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Looks like adults ain’t scared of the ocean too much to fish. Disciplining in harsh ways ain’t without downsides. Nor not disciplining at all. Pick your preferred poison?

I think the key to their parenting success is not "lie to your kids about the ocean" but "don't yell at your kids".

The question is can one work without the other? Cherry picking work only in GIT.

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I'm with the Inuit and Jedi on this one: anger is pretty useless[0], and if you must[1] take revenge, that's best served cold. Sometimes I wonder if the typical Hollywood W-plot, in which the hero's best friend/significant relation is shown partying/getting the girl/otherwise living well at the top of the middle ∧ then killed by the villain at the bottom of the right ∨, after which the hero gets angry and wins the da…

"At times it is only the angry who are in a position to apprehend the magnitude of some injustice. For they are the ones willing to sacrifice all their other concerns and interests so as to attend, with an almost divine focus, to some tear in the moral fabric. When I am really angry, it is not even clear to me that I can calm down—the eyes of the heart do not have eyelids—and the person making that request strikes me…

Although I am not a violent person, I think some people only respond to violence. They cannot be reasoned with.

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The options on the table is a) be petrified of the water, or b) risk falling into ice cold water, and option a) is the one that actually keeps your children alive. I wonder if storytelling is effective due to an evolutionary pressure that leads kids who don't learn from storytelling to succumb to the dangers warned against by children's stories. I mean, there's a recurring theme in children's stories which is the cha…

Why couldn't you just literally (in a controlled setting) introduce them directly to the danger by mediating and showing them thru direct experience? Take your kid to work and let them see what they're up against

Kids and adolescents have limited capacity to reason about hypotheticals and cause and effect. That capacity doesn’t develop until later. What they do have is an innate fear of dangerous creatures. These stories simply meet kids where their faculties are.

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"At times it is only the angry who are in a position to apprehend the magnitude of some injustice. For they are the ones willing to sacrifice all their other concerns and interests so as to attend, with an almost divine focus, to some tear in the moral fabric. When I am really angry, it is not even clear to me that I can calm down—the eyes of the heart do not have eyelids—and the person making that request strikes me…

Although I am not a violent person, I think some people only respond to violence. They cannot be reasoned with.

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The Iliad is the greatest LGBT love story of all time and I will die on that hill - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achilles_and_Patroclus If you read the Iliad as a man losing his childhood lover, everything makes sense. Many in the classical greek period took this interpretation.

Painting the Iliad as a modern-day LGBT story is missing the forest for the trees. It encompasses so much more than the single-minded focus on physical attraction of today allows for: kinship, loyalty, adoration, piety, and veneration were all expressions of love to the ancient Greeks, and most of them existed without any physical component.

This is oddly topical considering how that Alexander docudrama just stirred this pot with Alexander and Haphaestion.

I haven't seen it but I read an article where the reviewer states something like "we've got to the point it's all right for 2 guys just to make out in a series made for the masses" he said something like he was pleased to realize that.

Your comment feels like you are seeing the forest but missing the trees. Yes, Greek masculinity seems better than modern masculinity, apparently they were far more comfortable conveying and displaying the forms of affection you identified, hence the universal acceptance of their deep friendship.

OP means they were actually f*cking tho and that does change motivation for the plot and subsequent events of the story considerably - perhaps even more adequately explaining the behavior and actions of Achilles than the traditional "best bro" interpretation.

That was the specific tree in the forest OP was referring to

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I'm with the Inuit and Jedi on this one: anger is pretty useless[0], and if you must[1] take revenge, that's best served cold. Sometimes I wonder if the typical Hollywood W-plot, in which the hero's best friend/significant relation is shown partying/getting the girl/otherwise living well at the top of the middle ∧ then killed by the villain at the bottom of the right ∨, after which the hero gets angry and wins the da…

Anger is not at all useless, it is a powerful and extremely useful emotion. When we witness injustice, when our loved ones are threatened or harmed, when someone treats us with contempt or disrespect, anger is our signal that we must take action, and it gives us the energy and courage to do what must be done. Understanding your anger and not letting it control your behaviour (ie not giving in to blind rage), is impor…

> Anger is not at all useless, it is a powerful and extremely useful emotion.

A while ago I had a loved one both harmed and threatened.

I called my insurance, who gave me a lawyer, who got the facts from my loved one and combined them with the law, giving the case to a judge, who gave us a court order which allowed us to both (a) remedy the harm, and (b) get law enforcement backup. For this outcome, very little energy, and no courage (at least on our parts), was required.

How would anger —or even moral outrage— have improved the situation?

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text-only version of the article: https://text.npr.org/685533353

One of the authors, Michaeleen Doucleff, also wrote a book called Hunt, Gather, Parent: What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Raising Happy, Helpful Little Humans. It's interesting, and has some useful points to think about while parenting. However, I felt that a lot of the concepts would be difficult to apply in the WEIRD (Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic) society I live in. The author acknowledges this, of course.

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I’m not sure lying to your kids about sea monsters to the point that your children are so petrified of the water they don’t go near it is quite as benign as they believe.

It worked for Christof (Truman Show), and for Morty Smith and his child.

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Yeah that's exactly the problem with the boogeyman. They inevitably enter a rebellious phase that could be mostly avoided if you maintained trust and communication. Easier said than done, but you need to keep things simple and direct. To be blunt about it, most parents aren't mentally mature enough to have kids.

> They inevitably enter a rebellious phase This is not a feature of most cultures, or at least they don't remark on it. If I were to guess, it is caused by our practice of sending kids to school.

It's well documented across the order Mammalia, not just humans.

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A caption in the article says “A lot has changed in the Arctic since the Canadian government forced Inuit families to settle in towns. But the community is trying to preserve traditional parenting practices.” (and earlier the article says “Elders I spoke with say intense colonization over the past century is damaging these traditions.” ) — what is this referring to? What did the Canadian government do?

> What did the Canadian government do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commi... > In June 2015, the TRC released an executive summary of its findings along with 94 "calls to action" regarding reconciliation between Canadians and Indigenous Peoples. The commission officially concluded in December 2015 with the publication of a multi-volume final report that concluded the school system amounted t…

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission is the opposite as advertised. It's a serious mistake to take the self proclaimed Ministry of Truth at face value.
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